Response to Brethren Caldwell and Scott

By Connie W. Adams

Both brother Caldwell and brother Scott replied to my July 6 article in good spirit as all of us would have expected. I am thankful for their responses because it affords an opportunity to focus the discussion on the precise point of concern. 

The Issue of Character

Brother Caldwell states that he knows Shane Scott to be a man who “has a humble spirit, and tender heart, and a sincere desire to know and teach only the truth of God.” I have never doubted that nor did anything in my article even approach the issue of character. The point of my criticism was the published views of brother Scott on the days of the creation week. Also, brother Caldwell expresses concern for “how many souls may be lost because of my impatience and persistence in discrediting a brother who is sincere and honest.” While all that may be true, it evades once again the point of criticism. As brother Scott suggested, he has established a “track record” and is known and loved as a sincere brother. While I do not know him personally, I do know a good many who know him well and who think highly of him. I have no reason to doubt that. None of that changes what has been taught in the public record.

Brother Scott is concerned that I have never contacted him personally “though he knows who I am and where I work.” I felt no need to contact him personally about something he has openly taught. It is where he works that gives me cause for concern about what he has openly taught.

Read For Yourself

We thank brother Caldwell for providing information as to how to access the materials to which he referred. I urge any who has not done so, to avail himself of this information. While I commended the good material against evolution, I say again that it avoids the point of complaint. Listen carefully, you are not dealing with the real complaint. What about the days of the creation week? Is it impossible for them to be literal 24-hour days or MUST they be ages, as brother Scott taught? What compels brother Scott to conclude that these days must be taken figuratively and not literally?

As to the speeches of brother Wolfgang at the Florida College lectures in February 2000, I was present and heard them. I also appreciated his warnings and appeals to the school in his closing remarks the second day. But whatever brethren have said on this subject in the past, while of interest historically, does not address the problem of a present teacher of Bible at Florida College. That concerns us in the here and now. We have children and grandchildren to consider. 

The Background

Both men referred to the background which led to brother Scott’s article in Sentry in 1995. Brother Caldwell said, “Without some of this background one would see brother Scott as dogmatic about this topic.” Well, brethren I knew the background. I thought brother Greg Gwin did an excellent job in reviewing the piece written by brother Scott. Perhaps others did not know. But now that this has been spelled out by brother Scott, I have a simple question. Do you still believe the days of creation cannot be literal and that they must be ages? Those were section headings in your article. Our brother Scott said, “At the end of my article I allowed that the literal day view may be correct, though in my opinion it is not the best interpretation.” So, he is of the same opinion still and that is why I am concerned about where he works.

He says he has never “bombarded others” with his views. But he has publicly advocated them, though brother Caldwell reports that he has changed his position since 1995, brother Scott still says, “In my opinion it is not the best interpretation to say that the days of the creation week were literal days.” Whatever has been changed, he is still set  in that opinion. Brother Scott, have you changed on that?

Where Brother Scott Works

While conservative brethren may have held these views throughout the history of the restoration, to my knowledge this is the first time one of such views has been a teacher of Bible at Florida College. Brother Caldwell said, “Because he admits to being unsure about parts of this study, he (Shane Scott) does not present a conclusion in class.” Now let’s look at this picture. Here is a teacher dealing with the very first chapter of the Bible (even if it is just in one class period in the whole year), he presents alternative views of the days of creation and offers a critique of the strengths and weaknesses of each, and then leaves it up in the air for the students to decide. Well, of course, students will reach their own conclusions. But if the teacher is unsure about some of this, where does that leave the student?

For any who may not know, I am a graduate of Florida College. I began in 1948, the last year L.R. Wilson was president. I was there when James R. Cope came in 1949. I was a four-year student when the school offered a four-year degree the first time around. I graduated with Melvin Curry and John Clark. Over the years at least twenty people who are related to me have attended Florida College. I had a granddaughter there last year. We have tried to be a friend to the school in whatever ways we could. I had many classes in which various erroneous positions were examined, but I was never left in doubt as to where the teacher stood. We might not always agree with the teacher, but we knew what he believed, where he stood, and how he arrived at his position. Classes that leave vital issues up in the air with a scattering of alternative views are dangerous. Paul’s question here is appropriate: “For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself for the battle?” (1 Cor. 14:8). 

Were His Views Known in Advance?

We ask brother Caldwell if he knew brother Scott’s views on this matter before he came to Florida College. I did. So did a number of others. Why were these views not known in light of the 1995 article? Why that was not more of a concern baffles me. One of the reasons brother Scott gave for believing the six days of creation could not be literal days was that there was just too much for the Lord to do on the sixth day. I mean, there the Lord was with the task of creating land animals, man and woman, all in one day! Adam gave names to the animals. Given the nature of God, may I ask what was the problem that demands long ages of time? No, brother Caldwell, with all due respect, that is not the kind of teacher this brother wants for the children and grandchildren of his friends, nor for his own.

Conclusion

Brother Scott says his track record stands in “sharp relief to brother Adams’ assertions.” I have not heard brother Scott teach or preach as others whom I know have. I offered no criticism of any of that, not even one “assertion.” My criticism was aimed directly at what he taught in the Sentry article and at the school administration for employing a teacher to teach Genesis, among other things, who holds such a view, when admittedly, every one of the teachers in the science department holds that the days of creation were literal days. This became even more troubling with the classes taught by Hill Roberts at the 1999 lectures when many brethren around the country knew what he believed. Had they said, “We goofed and should have known better” then I, for one would have said, “Forget it and move on.” I am confident others would have as well. But couple the defensive stance taken about that with the attitude taken about the presence of brother Scott as a Bible teacher and the ignoring of the real complaint while raising side issues, and that only aggravates the problem. Others will have to speak for themselves, but I would dearly love to recapture the confidence I once had in Florida College and count myself as one of its chief promoters. Given the current atmosphere, sadly, I cannot do that.

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Truth Magazine Vol. XLIV: 15  p9  August 3, 2000

What Next?

By Olen Holderby

Will anyone seriously question the presence of frustration in our society today? In the time of heightened prosperity such as we live in, it seems that something better should be expected. A portion of our local paper was recently headlined “Americans are Wealthier but not Happier.” Some have much, but are seeking more; and it doesn’t appear to make any difference how they get it. Corruption runs rampant, not only in politics, but in all levels of our society. Dishonesty is commonplace and disrespect for the law of our land can be seen on almost every street corner. The goal of many seems to be the satisfying of their every lust, even if it ruins a few lives in doing so. And, this is only a partial picture.

Indeed, there are those who strive to live above this; they are in the minority and many of these have lost heart — they just do not have the “grit” to continue their resistance. Yet, there remains many who continue and strive to improve the situation. These are known as “Christians.” Perhaps we should narrow this a bit, and say that we make reference to the “real conservative Christian” — the ones who are not satisfied with anything more or less than what God’s Word teaches.

What Is Wrong with Me?

I believe in the God of the Bible (Gen. 1:1). I believe Jesus Christ to be the Savior of the world (1 John 4:14). I believe the Gospel of Christ is the one and only standard of morality (Phil. 1:27). I believe that abortion violates the command “You shall not murder.” I believe that homosexuality is immoral and sinful (Lev. 20:13; Rom. 1:27). I believe that the Gospel is the absolute standard that is to regulate all activities which God has given man to do (2 John 9). I have never tried to force my convictions upon others; but I am always willing and anxious to share my convictions with others and to offer reasons as to why I believe what I do (1 Pet. 3:15).

A while back a man was criticizing an article which I had written for the local paper. I was told that believing and teaching what I did made me a part of the “religious right.” I never did find out just what he meant by “religious right,” but somehow I was to be a danger to this country. Since then, I have found out that this was not an isolated case, but such is being voiced by many today. True Christians have a lot of enemies in this land, and some of them are quite vicious. “Christian-bashing” is rather common, often in news programs, where Christian principles are rejected and abhorred. Like unto ancient Rome, true Christians today are blamed with just about everything — we are the real troublers of the land and need to be squelched.

Even sadder is the fact that many Americans, perhaps unintentionally, have accepted this idea of the “religious right.” Many today, especially our enemies, are “willingly ignorant” of what the Bible teaches (2 Pet. 3:5), and they “speak evil of those things that they understand not” (2 Pet. 2:12). Christians are being reviled, slandered, lied against, accused of being narrow-minded, fanatical, bigots, cranks; yes, even “religious righters.” This is, of course, a form of religious persecution, and I do not believe that the persecution will stop with just verbal abuse.

Why?

But, why are true Christians being thus persecuted? There may be several reasons, but I shall mention only a couple. First, Christians are different. We are to be a peculiar people (Tit. 2:14) who teach and practice purity (Eph. 5:25-27; 1 John 3:3). Just the presence of such examples in morality is deeply resented by many. Secondly, Christians are to refrain from and rebuke evil (1 Thess. 5:21-22; Eph. 5:11). In the last of these two passages, the Christian is told to “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Obeying these instructions of the Lord will interfere in the lives of those in sin, and all who wish to continue in sin are going to deeply resent such interfering. The world has a standard, but the Christian cannot be guided thereby (Rom. 12:2). 

Our enemies “think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot”; therefore, “they speak evil of you” (1 Pet. 4:4). They want no part of that which demands self-control, restraint, or common decency; they must be able to set their own standard without anyone telling them that they are wrong. When we Christians try to share God’s Word with such, we are utterly condemned. They have no respect for our standard, though they demand that we respect theirs. All of this is nothing short of bigotry.

I have been accused of being allied with Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. This charge I would strongly deny; for, neither of these gentlemen respect the Gospel as I try to do. 

A Serious Mistake

Everybody or everything referred to as Christian just may not be Christian. Claiming to be a Christian is quite different from actually possessing the marks of the Christian. Therefore, it is a mistake to “lump” together all who claim to be Christian and call it true Christianity. The true Christian recognizes the Bible, and only the Bible, as his standard. Human creeds, whether Catholic or Protestant, are unacceptable to the true Christian. The Gospel would have the Christian to treat even his enemies with due respect. True Christians respect the laws of the land in which they live (Rom. 13:1-7); and the only time they are not to do so is when that law conflicts with the higher law of God (Acts 5:29). True Christianity has never endangered any country at any time. But, our enemies either have not recognized this distinction, or they have ignored it.

The Solution

First, it is likely to get worse! So, how does the Christian react to all this? What solutions are available? Perhaps we could just ignore such and refuse to become involved one way or the other. Such reaction would not cause the problem to go away. It would, in fact, allow it to become worse more quickly. But, can we still claim to be a Christian and react in this way?

It may be that we can find a way to compromise with our enemies. We could sit down at the conference table with the abortion clinics, homosexuals, smut peddlers, movie makers and all their supporters and reach some sort of an agreement. It could, perhaps, be just a “gentlemen’s agree- ment” to let each other alone. Again, we must ask that troubling question — Can we accurately claim to be a Christian and do such?

The Christian is taught to teach (Matt. 28:18-20; 2 Tim. 2:2). He is to teach the Gospel (Mark 16:15), and he is to do so whether it is liked or not (2 Tim. 4:2). He is to teach “all the counsel of God” on any subject under consideration (Acts 20:27). I know of nothing else that we could do that would stand a chance of making the situation better. So, let us resolve to continue to preach God’s Word in its purity, and conform our own lives thereto, that our example, along with our words might be pleasing to him who shall judge all — both us and our enemies. Since the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Rom. 1:16), man can be saved only by following that Gospel, God’s Truth (John 17:17; 1 Pet. 1:22).

What Next?

Of course, no one really knows for certain. However, if we are permitted to judge on the basis of the way things have gone the past three decades, it will be getting worse and worse. Christians will be limited more and more as to what they can do or what they can teach, yes, and even where they can teach it. According to papers which I have read, some such restrictions are already under way in some places. Are you ready for this? When we are ordered to do differently from what our God has ordered, how shall we react? Where shall we stand? May God help each of us to build the strength which we shall need. We may need it sooner than you think!

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Truth Magazine Vol. XLIV: 15  p20  August 3, 2000

There’s A Great Day Coming

By Johnie Edwards

We often sing, “There’s A Great Day Coming.” As we think about this great day, there are some great things associated with this great day. Thus, we take a look:

1. The Greatest Crowd Ever Gathered. How large of a crowd have you been in? Four or five hundred thousand? This great day will feature every person who has ever lived from day one to the end of time. Matthew 25:32 records, “And before him shall be gathered all nations . . .” By the way, you will be in this crowd!

2. The Greatest Book Will Be Opened. The Word of God will be the book by which we all will be judged. John said, “And I saw the dead, small and great stand before God; and the books were opened (Rev. 20:12). The Bible is a collection of 66 books and they will be opened. Jesus said, “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” (John 12:48). Paul wrote that we will judged by the “gospel”(Rom. 2:16). We had better get to reading, studying and obeying this great book! Right?

3. The Greatest Judge Will Judge. “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son” (John 12:48). Paul put it this way, “In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel” (Rom. 2:16). Christ will be a faithful and fair judge as he knows “what is in man” (John 2:25).

4. The Greatest Separation Known To Man. Matthew describes it as, “. . . He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats” (Matt. 25:32). Paul penned concerning this great separation regarding, “. . . them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel, shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power” (2 Thess. 1:7-9). At this great day, the saint and sinner will be separated. Which one are you?

5. The Handing Out Of The Greatest Reward. “For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then he shall reward every man according to his works” (Matt. 16:27). It’s like Matthew 25:46 reveals, “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” Which will your reward be?

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Truth Magazine Vol. XLIV: 15  p19  August 3, 2000

An Open Letter: The Creation Account & Florida College

By Harry Osborne and Daniel King

The following lines represent an open letter to brethren Hill Roberts, Shane Scott, the Bible faculty and administration of Florida College, with particular reference to Colly Caldwell and Ferrell Jenkins:

In Mark 2:1-12 and Matthew 9:1-8, the parallel accounts of Jesus’ healing of a bedridden paralytic are given. The text affirms that Jesus’ divine power was demonstrated through this miracle when he told the sick of the palsy, “I say unto thee, Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thy house.” Mark’s account then says that the man “straightway took up the bed, and went forth before them all.” Faithful brethren in discussions with Pentecostals and charismatics generally, have pointed out two obvious characteristics of miracles from this and other cases: (a) there was instantaneous action to accomplish fully the intended result, and (b) the action was not explainable by natural law.

Suppose one were to affirm that he fully believed in the power of Christ in this miracle, but went on to explain that the biblical account merely gave us a simplified and abbreviated version of what actually took place. Suppose it was claimed that to understand what really happened in this story, we would need to go to medical science and to understand the healing process because, after all, the Bible merely states the fact of the healing, not how it was done or how long it took. On the basis of this reasoning, let us further suppose that one concluded the man of Mark 2 was healed by Christ over a period of 20 years through the natural laws which Christ decreed on the occasion recorded. If one so affirmed, would we be ready to accept that explanation as being in accordance with the Scripture? Obviously not. But why not? We would no doubt answer that such is a denial of the clear affirmation of the inspired record that the miracle was (a) instantaneous, and (b) could not be explained by natural law. Brethren, if that reply is proper with regard to the miracle of Mark 2, the same principles must apply with respect to every miracle. Surely that includes the “granddaddy” of all miracles, the Creation itself. All other miracles pale in comparison!

In recent years, acceptance and tolerance of what we consider to be a dangerous error has been increasing among our brethren. It is an error which, in our estimation, undercuts the very foundation of our faith. This is the view which suggests that the physical universe began as the result of the Big Bang and developed over billions of years of change by natural law to become capable of sustaining life. Brethren among us have both publicly and privately stated their acceptance of the basic tenets of uniformitarianism and the timetable associated with the general theory of evolution. While they maintain that God created life instantaneously by his word, they deny that a similar process obtained with the inanimate world. Documentation of the particular issues discussed in this essay is provided in the form of endnotes with extensive quotations and citations of sources. We encourage each person to check those sources to make sure that all quotations cited are properly used. If it can be proven that we have misrepresented or misunderstood someone, then we shall be anxious to make a full and public correction.

It is our conviction that if the concepts mentioned above are accepted or tolerated among us, the stage will have been set for an ever progressing acceptance of an evolutionary explanation for all things. We are convinced that when one accepts the basic principles of biblical interpretation undergirding such theories, there is no convenient or proper stopping point in their application. For those who do not take such matters as seriously as we do, nor share our obvious level of distress, let it be known that this is not a cry of “Wolf!” In our view it is a real and present danger. And, it is not our intention to “just let it go” or “learn to live with that which we cannot change.” We may not be able to change it, but we assuredly do not intend to tolerate it in silence!

Those signing this letter have been troubled over the recent acceptance or tolerance of views denying the literal interpretation of the Bible account of miraculous creation. Actions taken and public declarations made by some among the Florida College administration and Bible faculty, as well as the “Lord I Believe” seminars, have been at the heart of such compromising efforts. The positive case for the literal interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2 has been set forth in several papers by numerous writers. Several brethren have made repeated efforts for over a year to provide for public discussion with both groups named above concerning the points at issue. Though there have been a few brief private discussions held between individuals which have ended without general agreement on the issues involved, opportunities for public debate or discussion have been rejected by those who maintain this view is an acceptable option for faithful Christians. This article will attempt to set the record straight regarding the real issues and to extend a renewed offer to address those matters with openness and brotherly love.

An advance copy of this article has been provided to brethren Colly Caldwell, Ferrell Jenkins, and Shane Scott of Florida College as well as to brother Hill Roberts of the “Lord I Believe” seminars. No such courtesy was provided on their part before engaging in their efforts described below. Nevertheless, opportunity for open discussion to each of these parties is again being offered to the end that we may address the real issues. Our hope and prayer is that such public discussion will take place so that unity may be furthered on the basis of truth, rather than division aided by distortion. None of us seeks the destruction of these brethren or any effort for truth. However, we do believe it essential for us to give an appropriate answer to what we consider a dangerous religious error.

Teaching of “Lord I Believe” Seminars

Brother Hill Roberts leads the “Lord I Believe” seminars which have been held in various parts of the country, and in numerous congregations. There is much that is valuable and true that is taught by brother Roberts in his presentations. His refutation of biological evolution is excellent, and his technical expertise has often been applauded. However, there is also a good deal which he teaches that is not true to the Bible. 

Brother Roberts was invited to the 1999 Florida College lectureship to present a series of four classes on the use of advanced technology to reach a skeptical world. During that series at Florida College, brother Roberts gave out a compact disk which contained his material from the “Lord I Believe” seminars. Among the documents included on that CD-ROM, were the articles entitled A Harmonization of God’s Genesis Revelation With His Natural Revelation and Genesis and The Time Thing. These essays deal extensively with brother Roberts’ support for a non-literal view of the creation account as well as his support for an evolutionary explanation for the inanimate world. Please note that all quotations and references to brother Roberts’ teaching are taken from the CD-ROM handed out at the Florida College lectures. The following are just a few examples which call for examination:

  1. Brother Roberts claims that the “Big Bang Theory” is “the Bible believer’s friend and the atheists’ nemesis.” Much of his article, Genesis & The Time Thing, is spent defending the acceptability of the Big Bang theory and the timetable for such as defended by evolutionists. Not only does Hill clearly affirm his acceptance of the basic tenets of the Big Bang theory, but he also repeatedly shows  an acceptance of sources such as the works of Hugh Ross, who also accepts this theory.
  2. Brother Roberts claims that the physical world is the primary revelation of God regarding creation. When one reads the clear words of Genesis 1 and 2 as well as the biblical references back to creation, it is hard to understand how a literal interpretation could be doubted. However, brother Roberts does not use the Bible account as his primary reference to interpret this matter. He says, “Where we have failed when it comes to biblical contexts concerning nature is to ignore the exceptions above by excluding the primary revelation from God in that area — nature itself” (Genesis & The Time Thing 15). Thus, the supposed revelation in the rocks is given precedence over the written revelation from the Bible in understanding the creation. When an apparent conflict exists, brother Roberts accepts the interpretations of current scientific thought as literal and makes the literal statements of the Holy Spirit figurative. This opens the door for what is transparently a “new hermeneutic approach” to the interpretation of Scripture.
  3. Brother Roberts claims that a 12 to 16 billion year old universe and a 4.6 billion year old earth are consistent with Genesis 1 when viewed in light of “alternate interpretations.” In fact, he suggests that those ages may well change in the years ahead so that they are even greater still. Yet, this timetable commonly accepted by evolutionists, is said to be harmonious with the Bible.
  4. Brother Roberts claims that, after the initial “Big Bang,” natural action over vast eons of time made the physical earth. His article, A Harmonization of God’s Genesis Revelation With His Natural Revelation, details this concept paralleling the doctrine of uniformitarianism. He repeatedly speaks of the changes needed to the Earth’s initial state as “a blob of clay-gas” hot from the Big Bang which must be “cooled” and “stabilized” by natural means over vast periods of time so that it could be prepared for God’s next action.

When one reads brother Roberts’ material and honestly evaluates it, there is no doubt that he affirms the present order of the universe is a product of a relatively slow evolutionary process of natural, uniformitarian change, albeit guided by divine providence. There is a vast difference between that view and the Bible’s affirmation of instantaneous creation by the command of God.

Clear Bible Teaching on Creation

The psalmist declared that, “By the word of Jehovah were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth” (Ps. 33:6). Did God speak his will and then let the natural forces take over and accomplish it through natural, uniformitarian change over billions of years? No! The following words of the psalmist preclude such an interpretation: “For He spake, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast” (Ps. 33:9).

Remember also that Jesus asserted man and woman were created “from the beginning of the creation” (Mark 10:6). If brother Roberts and those of like mind are correct, then man and woman were created far closer to our end of time than “the beginning of creation.” Whom will you believe? Brother Roberts’ teaching is in clear contrast to the word of God. Jesus taught the doctrine of creation as literally true even as stated in Genesis 1 and 2. Since that is the “doctrine of Christ” on the matter, one going beyond that doctrine or found receiving the teacher who goes beyond that doctrine is clearly condemned as being a participant in evil and devoid of God’s fellowship and sanction (2 John 9-11).

Non-literal Interpretations & Florida College

Why are we so disturbed to hear of these things? Are we over-reacting, or being alarmists? Some will undoubtedly say so, but we think the lessons of history confirm our worries. Several years ago, false views regarding the Bible doctrine of creation were advanced at Abilene Christian University. No one was able to stop the gradual movement toward the teaching of theistic evolution at Abilene, which began with the classroom instruction of only one or two teachers. Now it represents the approach to origins taken at the school. The error taught at Abilene arose among those teaching in the sciences. Lest anyone think that such is the case at Florida College, it should be emphasized that there is not the slightest hint of error regarding creation arising from the teachers of the sciences at Florida College. On the contrary, several of the science teachers there have publicly taught and defended the literal interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2 — that God created both the animate and inanimate world instantaneously over six literal days. Our concern is not with those in the sciences.

The problem with teaching at Florida College which is contrary to the obvious and literal sense of the Genesis account, has instead originated with some in the Bible faculty, who are either directly advocating or encouraging tolerance for non-literal views of Genesis 1 and 2. To this date, there has been no clear rebuke of the doctrinal error taught on Hill Roberts’ CD-ROM passed out at the 1999 Florida College lectures. Provision for that opportunity was the responsibility of the Bible faculty which arranges the lectureships. We accept the explanation offered by some on the faculty that they were not aware of brother Roberts’ views at the time he was first invited to participate in the 1999 program. However, instead of responding to brother Roberts’ materials and condemning the errors present therein, subsequent “defenses” have either pretended not to notice what was circulated on the campus to those in attendance, or else have attempted to justify his invitation to speak on the reasoning that this matter is very difficult to settle and ought not to be seen as a reason for breaking fellowship between brethren.4 On the latter point, we most assuredly disagree. As to the former matter, let this be considered an open invitation: If any of the Bible faculty at Florida College would be willing to rebuke the doctrinal error taught by brother Roberts, show its dangerous consequences and urge that such teachers of error not be received, commitments have been made by the editors for space to publish such in Gospel Anchor, Gospel Truths, Truth Magazine, and Watchman Magazine.

But the Hill Roberts matter is not all that concerns us. The non-literal interpretation of creation has been stated as the preferred view by brother Shane Scott in the freshman Bible course at Florida College. This is known to be true by his own admission, and by statements from his students. His web site, open to students, stated his acceptance of this position as well. Shane defended his views publicly in a written discussion with Greg Gwin.5 Brother Scott has also recommended material by Hugh Ross who affirms the Big Bang theory and uniformitarian change to account for the gradual development of the inanimate creation according to natural law. Hugh Ross can accurately be described as a theistic evolutionist. Is this the same material recommended for students in Shane’s classes? If brother Scott would refute the error of Hugh Ross and that of Hill Roberts, as advanced in the material distributed at the Florida College lectures, it would be a great step forward. Again, we offer him space to do so.

At the Florida College lectureship in February of this year, brother Ferrell Jenkins conducted a class on “Making Sense of the Days of Creation.” (Audio tapes of brother Jenkins’ class are available from the Florida College Bookstore for $5.00 each.) Ferrell began by denying that Hill Roberts had taught on “the age of the Earth” during his classes the previous year. It is true that except for a few incidental remarks, he did not elaborate his doctrines. However, brother Jenkins neglected to acknowledge that the teaching was done on the CD-ROM passed out at brother Roberts’ last class in the series. Brother Jenkins also belittled much of the discussion about the issues arising over brother Roberts’ teaching as “E-gossip” in which some brethren were sentenced to the “electronic mail chair.” It was material good for a laugh, but was not befitting a serious attempt to openly discuss issues which affect our souls. The issues involved in this discussion are not a joke, but are matters dealing with fundamental principles of faith and biblical interpretation. If some have been guilty of gossip, whether through e-mail or any other medium, then that ought to be corrected and certainly should not continue. But the fact that Hill Roberts was invited to Florida College and permitted a forum for the further popularization of his views is something which has rightly raised alarm among brethren. If the Bible faculty thinks that someone with views as controversial as those of Hill Roberts can be invited to address lecture attendees without causing a considerable “stir” amongst faithful brethren, then they are assuredly more naive than we all think them to be! 

Brother Jenkins stated that all of us would deny a 4.5 or 4.6 billion year age of the earth. However, the fact is that this is not true of all in the Bible faculty and certainly is not true of Hill Roberts as evidenced by the material distributed at Florida College. It should also be noted that the attempt to characterize the issues in this discussion as an “Age of the Earth” question is misleading. The main issue has to do with whether (a) the physical world and its living inhabitants were created instantaneously by the word of God over six literal, consecutive days as taught in Scripture, or (b) the Scripture must be interpreted non-literally to suggest that the physical world is the result of uniformitarian changes over vast eons of time. This discussion centers on the very heart of biblical hermeneutics and miraculous action.

The main thrust of brother Jenkins’ class was that we could not be sure whether the “days” of Creation were literal, 24-hour days or ages of time. Brother Jenkins did state his belief that the “days” were literal days as we know them. However, he also said there were good arguments both ways and equally capable men who reached opposite views on this issue. In dealing with the differences which exist on this issue, brother Jenkins characterized them as being among those where “there are just some things so difficult that I may not be able to draw the same conclusion you’ve drawn on those and then to give that opportunity for people.” Rather than being alarmed over the teaching of brother Roberts and those of the same mind, brother Jenkins urged us all as follows: “Let us be less crisis minded.”

Those present at brother Jenkins’ class were urged not to be “dogmatic” about the issues involved and to accept brethren who came to differing conclusions. They were further urged not to concentrate so much on these matters and get busy trying to reach the lost. However, we would inquire of brother Jenkins why there was no rebuke of brethren for teaching that the Earth evolved over billions  of years from the Big Bang rather than trying to reach the lost? The fact is that such teaching is fundamentally flawed and opposed to efforts to reach the lost. It is an abdication of the Bible ground affirming the miraculous and instantaneous creation of the physical world, and a denial of the fundamental principles of proper hermeneutics. If such teaching is encouraged or even tolerated at Florida College, it is our view that eventually we will have many more lost souls to reach, not less.

In the October 1999 issue of the Florida College magazine, and in the face of heavy criticism, brother Colly Caldwell wrote to assure all of us as to the firm stand of the faculty regarding these matters. He said,

People of faith who believe that God exists, that God created all things, and that God rules over His creation have an educational haven to which they can send their children in full confidence that they will not be taught to believe in either “macro-evolution” or “theistic evolution.” Our faculty is united in opposition to these theories. Each of our professors strongly affirms instantaneous creation of both botanical and zoological “kinds” by the spoken word of God as described in Genesis 1. And each powerfully denies both macro-evolution and theistic evolution” (2).

But, brother Caldwell, the matters which you have commented upon are not the issue. At this point, we all agree on these matters. What of the inanimate creation? In the present controversy, that is the issue. Is it necessary for us to believe that the order of the physical world also had its origin in the “instantaneous creation by the spoken word of God as described in Genesis 1”? If so, why has teaching to the contrary been tolerated at Florida College? Or is it acceptable to believe the Earth and the physical universe evolved over vast eons of time — despite the plain statements of Scripture? If that is to be accepted, then we suggest that you openly admit that such will be tolerated at Florida College so that parents and students can be fully informed about the true nature of the teaching that is being done at the school.

In the May 2000 issue of Gospel Truths, Colly further attempted to console worried brethren regarding the faculty and administration’s views about fellowship with false teachers with the following remarks:

. . . for the record, the president, the chair of the Bible division, and to my knowledge every administrator and teacher at Florida College:  . . . (2) believes in “the unity of the Spirit, which is unity of the faith” (Eph. 4:3, 13) and denies the doctrine commonly identified as “unity-in-diversity.” (3) believes that false teachers are primarily identified by their message . . . (1).

We agree with these statements. But we urge brother Caldwell to consider carefully the implications of what he has written in terms of the issues which have been raised by the teachings of brethren Hill Roberts and Shane Scott. We want to say it as kindly as possible, but say it we must: We view this teaching as false doctrine. Not only do we not agree with it, but we will have no part in tolerating it. It is our intention to fight it with all the force of our powers to speak and write. If Florida College gives this doctrine aid and comfort, then we cannot recommend the school to others without reservations and warnings. We plead with you not to allow the reputation of the school to be further damaged by this controversy. 

Conclusion

Those of us who have signed this open letter stand ready to discuss these matters in a public forum. Since these things have been cast into the public light by public proclamation in the churches, on the campus of Florida College, and in written form, the time for private remedy is past. It is our considered opinion that a serious turn has been taken in a very wrong direction by all those who have been alluded to in this open letter. If these brethren are willing to discuss these issues in print, the pages of Gospel Anchor, Gospel Truths, Truth Magazine and Watchman Magazine have been offered for a written discussion of this issue with any or all of those to whom allusion has been made, and who would agree to discuss either of the following propositions:

The Bible teaches that both the animate and inanimate creation were fully accomplished in six literal, consecutive days.

Affirmed: Co-signers of this letter
Denied: ______________

The Bible teaches that we should advocate or tolerate an interpretation of the Creation account which affirms the inanimate creation is the result of a series of changes over billions of years beginning with the Big Bang and resulting in a physical world able to sustain life.
Affirmed: ______________
Denied: Co-signers of this letter

The editors of the papers opening their pages can select the men they desire to defend the appropriate propositions above. If oral public debate is preferred, several stand ready to accommodate in that arena also.

Our hope and prayer is that brethren with opposing views will open the Scriptures with one another and come to unity on the basis of truth. These issues are serious and involve foundational principles regarding our faith. We do not consider them to be mere “matters of opinion.” We do not hold that they involve issues beyond the average Christian to assess. We deny the allegation that men simply must learn to disagree about such matters. If we cannot agree on the first chapter of the Bible, how can we expect to find agreement on anything else in the Old Book? Surely no one wishes our differences to widen and produce the fruits of estrangement. Unity will not result from the ridicule of those who differ with us nor from a failure to face up to the true nature of the issues involved. May God help us all to open our hearts to one another as we together open our Bibles to resolve any and all of our differences by humble submission to God and his truth.

Endnotes

1. On page 7 of Genesis and The Time Thing, Hill Roberts asks the reader to “consider just how much of Genesis 1 is paralleled by empirical data using the premise that Genesis 1 is true, but very simplified.” Of the first four similarities suggested, brother Roberts cites Big Bang supporting hypotheses as his corroborating “empirical data.” He then notes the following on page 18:

This Big Bang theory is now the standard explanation for how the energy and matter resulting from the beginning came to be distributed as it is today. . . . Genesis affirms the fact of the beginning but not the process. Therefore there can be no conflict between Genesis and science as to process. However, the physical data does argue strongly for a beginning consistent with Genesis. In this, the data supporting the Big Bang theory is the Bible believer’s friend and the atheists’ nemesis.
In his footnote to the last few sentences of that quote, Hill again supports the validity of the Big Bang theory as the “beginning” affirmed in the Bible. He then continues with this statement:

All the matter of the universe, including earth, traces back to this beginning. Since then it has only been redistributed. This redistribution process is known as stellar evolution.

So, by brother Roberts’ own admission, he believes in “stellar evolution.” The Big Bang gave the universe its beginning and stellar evolution gave it the form it eventually took. One who accepts the notion that God oversaw this process, as does brother Roberts, is undeniably a “theistic stellar evolutionist.”

2. From Genesis & The Time Thing, page 17: 

When the contextural hermeneutic approach is consistently applied to all the body of revelation concerning creation (written and natural), some alternative interpretations require investigation. It has been shown by many dating techniques from geology, astronomy and physics that the view that “the earth was formed as it is today in only a few days a few thousand years ago” is at least an area where there is no obvious agreement between most of the scientific data and the young earth interpretation. The natural data supporting these dating results are the “other authoritative information” revealed by God which could lead one to ask if a different interpretation of Genesis would fit the sum of the data better. The long age view is based on physical properties of nature such as ongoing geological change, astronomical distances and processes, and decay properties of radioisotopes. Taken all together, if the bounding assumptions are valid, these indicate an age of the universe between 12 and 16 billion years and an age of the earth of approximately 4.6 billion years. I do not know what the actual age is because it cannot be known if the assumptions are correct. The assumptions do appear to be self-consistent. In any event, these numbers are likely to change in the future. However if the past is any indication, we will see these numbers grow rather than shrink. This is indicative of the inherently conservative scientific process that has been used in refining these estimates.

3. The following are a series of quotations from Hill Roberts in A Harmonization of God’s Genesis Revelation and The Natural Revelation showing the repeated affirmation of such a uniformitarian explanation of the inanimate creation of the physical earth:

After this initial creation God does not need to exercise His authority directly upon nature, save to further shape its course where it pleases Him to transcend these physical laws. This transformation from spirit to substance would naturally lead from the ephemeral to the physical, from power to substance, from energy to mass. This is exactly the type of transformation which theories such as the Big Bang predict for the resultants of the initial created beginning. These predictions are based on the results of the universe continuing to follow these initial laws. The transformation of energy to matter continued for a long time by our standards until the creation was fully prepared for His next acts of design. Space was flung far and wide with just the right elements, density and dynamic balance of forces to sustain a place called Earth. But at this point in the narrative, Earth is only an barren land that stands ready for further shaping.
Again on page 1, he says:

A great deal of preparation is required to make the land ready for man. It must be stabilized, cooled, surfaced, protected. From the “surface” of the earth, God surveys the results of His work so far; work that has resulted in this orbiting blob of clay-gas.

Of the second day, he says this on page 2:

Now once again God lets this environment He’s created do what He created it to do: make or shape (assah) the earthen surface. The Earth was going through a process of cooling as it stabilized with a surface of solid materials and an atmosphere with a particularly unique substance — water.

Of the third day, he says this on page 3:

Algae’s are the first known fossils of living things on this Earth. Algae’s do exactly what was necessary for the next phase of life: they make oxygen. They concentrate the energy of sunlight into the complex molecules necessary as the foodstuffs of the next layer in the onion of life: animals. But that’s getting ahead of the story, animals will come later. There is a lot of work for these first plants to do first: making oxygen and converting minerals to vast stores of organic molecules.

On page 3, he further says of the third day:

How long did this take? For God to pronounce His will for the land and the plants — not long, a day seems to be just right. How long did it take for the land and the plants to accomplish His will? However long His natural laws decreed. The natural history of these first plants indicates that it covered quite a bit of time by our clocks, but for God ’twas a mere blink of an eye. We are on God’s clock in Genesis 1.

Of the fourth day, he says on page 4:

Whereas before, the daily cycle on Earth was a vague passage from light to darkness as the sunlight is diffused within a thickened atmosphere; now possibly is when the atmosphere begins to clear to allow direct access to sunlight at the surface. The plants are in place and ready to process the sun’s energy at full gain, so to speak. Photosynthesis can switch to high gear. The moon also becomes visible along with the stars. The passage of time now can be recorded due to the natural processes of annual seasonal changes as well as the daily cycle. The Earth’s thermal stability is also in a process of change. The water vapor in the clouds is forced, by the buildup of heat, to the surface in greater quantity which results in the sky’s clearing. Weathering processes increase. Sediments build and entrap seasonal records of the passage of time, lots of time. The Earth is still essentially a tropical place and will remain so for some time. Day follows night now in ever increasing clarity. . . . How long did this take? A single fourth day for God to cause these changes merely by the issue of His Will, by decree. And just as long as the processes He decreed would need to accomplish all that He decreed. Four creative decisions, four days, but a much longer time in the working out or making happen of these decisions.

Of the sixth day, he says on page 5:

The third great feat of bara creation is decreed — man! The first bara was the universe itself (1:1), the second bara was sentient life (1:21), and now the final bara — man (1:27) There are no natural laws that can accomplish these feats. God must create!”

Again regarding the sixth day, he says on page 6:

How long was this sixth day? It only took God a day to decree the creation of the rest of the animals, and even man. As observed for the other days, once God decrees — it happens. Also as before, the natural processes set in motion by those decrees appear to take a significant amount of time.

In dealing with the command for animals to fill the earth on the sixth day, brother Roberts makes the following parallel on page 6:

How do we know that the earth wasn’t immediately filled with animals and humans? Not because of anything the text says. In fact, the text indicates that just as for the other days, all this ‘filling’ was also accomplished on day six, by ending with the same repetitive expressions. The only reason we know it wasn’t so immediately is because we know something about the process of reproduction. Maybe if we likewise were so familiar with the physical processes for the other things commanded on the other days we would likewise not assume everything responded instantly to God’s command. But rather, the other items of creation could have naturally responded according to the laws God had established for His natural world.

4. In his class on “Making Sense of the Days of Creation” at the Florida College lectures in 2000, brother Ferrell Jenkins spoke on the decision to invite Hill Roberts to speak. Brother Jenkins said, “And, I’ll have to tell you, I had no idea that this brother was such a controversial person when we invited him to speak at all. That doesn’t mean we wouldn’t have invited him. I’m just saying I didn’t know it.” Later in the speech, Ferrell summarized the effect of this invitation by noting, “And so maybe we’ve done a good service. That’s what education is about — making people think and allowing us to come to conclusions based on our study of the word of God.”

5. In Sentry magazine (Vol. 21, No. 1), brother Scott said, “Some Bible believers insist that the world, according to Genesis 1, was created in six twenty-four hour days. I believe, however, that the days of Genesis 1 should not be interpreted literally.” The next section of his article is entitled, “The Days Cannot Be Literal.” In both his article in Sentry as well as in discussion with others, brother Scott has clearly stated his view that brother Roberts’ timetable of the universe being about 15 billion years old and the earth being 4+ billion years old is in harmony with the Scripture. In the same article, Shane also affirmed, “What happened on the fourth day was that the sun, moon, and stars became visible to the earth’s surface.” However, to brother Scott, that is not a literal fourth day, but a fourth group of vast ages. When he affirms that the Earth’s atmosphere changed over long ages to become clear enough for the sun, moon and stars to be visible, what is the basic assumption? It is the same assumption made by brother Roberts – uniformitarian change over vast amounts of time by natural law to account for the present order of the physical universe.

Co-signed by:

Daniel King, Sr.
Harry Osborne
Wayne Partain
Maurice Barnett
Connie W. Adams
Tim Haile
Bill Reeves
Steve Wallace
James Hahn
Thomas G. O’Neal
Larry Fain
Bill Cavender
Wayne Wells
Dennis L. Reed
Paul M. Smith
Stan Cox
Andy Alexander
Tom Roberts
Steven Deaton
Glendol McClure
Ron Halbrook
Wayne Goforth
Steven J. Wallace
James P. Needham
Larry Ray Hafley
Jarrod Jacobs
Phillip W. Martin
Kyle Campbell
Jeff S. Smith
Ronald D. Chaffin
Samuel Csonka
Jim Mickells
Jere Frost
Paul R. Blake
James Shear
Bobby Witherington
Joel Plunkett
Joe McGaw
Bill Hawkins
Bruce Reeves
Richard Thetford
Leslie Sloan
Donnie Rader
David M. Bonner
Dudley Ross Spears
Aaron L. Veyon
Mark Mayberry
Dennis Scroggins
Joe Price
Steve Curtis
Larry J. Curry
Doug Roush
Jerry Fite
Richard J. Boone
Brett W. Hogland
Mo Hafley
Sherrel A. Mercer
Truman Smith
Ron Lloyd
Shawn Smith
Dale Garrison
Marc Gibson
Wayne Goff
Stan Adams
Kenneth E. Thomas
J. Wiley Adams.

Truth Magazine Vol. XLIV: 15  p12  August 3, 2000