Quips & Quotes

Clinton Speaks to Gay Group, Shies Away from “Ellen” Star “Washington — In a nod to the bud- ding political clout of the gay-rights movement, President Clinton on Saturday addressed a fund-raiser for the nation’s largest gay and lesbian group. ‘We have to broaden the imagination of America,’ he said.

“Clinton’s sold-out dinner speech to the Human Rights Campaign, which was greeted by a sustained standing ovation inside and pickets outside, made him the first sitting president to publicly address a gay and lesbian civil rights organization” (The Indianapolis Star [November 9, 1997], A4).

Benefits of Religious Practice “Andrea Neal — Every Sunday morning, the routine is essentially the same: Wake up, make pancakes and get dressed for church, all the while hearing the kids complain, ‘Don’t we get a day to sleep in?’

“Knowing what Duke University re- searchers have found, I’d be foolish to change our pattern. In the October International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, they report that those who attend weekly religious services have healthier immune systems than those who don’t.

“‘It’s the first study ever published . . . that has found an association be- tween religious activity and immune functioning,’ says Dr. Harold Koenig, director of Duke’s Center for the Study of Religion/Spirituality and Health.

“. . . Immune systems aren’t the only things that function better when people regularly practice their faith.

“Last year, in an effort to influence political discussion of the role of religion in public life, the Heritage Foundation compiled all the studies it could find on religion’s link to health and social stability. The amount of research conducted over many years, and the overwhelmingly beneficial impact traced to religion, were amazing. For example:

“Regular church attendance is the most critical factor in marital stability, regardless of denomination or doctrinal teaching on divorce. A 1993 survey of 3,300 men found that those who switch partners most are those with no religious convictions. Similarly, the rate of cohabitation before marriage is seven times higher among people who seldom or never attend religious services, a significant finding since couples who live together before marriage experience higher divorce rates.

“Researchers at Johns Hopkins University have found cardiovascular disease significantly reduced by a lifetime of church attendance. Numerous other studies confirm that churchgoers live longer with lower rates of cirrhosis, emphysema and arteriosclerosis.

“Religious involvement greatly decreases  drug use, delinquency, premarital sex and increases self-control for all age groups. In a 1985 study of girls, 9 to 17, less than 10 percent of those who attended religious services weekly reported drug or alcohol use, compared to 38 percent of the overall group” (The Indianapolis Star [November 6, 1997], A22).

U.S. Abortion Rate Drops; Experts Credit Prevention Programs

“Barbara Vobejda, The Washington Post — The rate at which American women received abortions dropped significantly in 1995, continuing a steady decline during the 1990s and putting the figure at its lowest level in two decades.

“The figures, released Thursday by the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, show that the proportion of women of child-bearing age who obtained abortions dropped 5 percent over the previous year and 20 percent since 1980. “But the study, and other research, suggests that the decline is not primarily driven by women choosing to proceed with unintended pregnancies.

“Instead, Americans — particularly teen-agers — are using contraceptives more effectively and avoiding pregnancy in the first place, experts said” (The Indianapolis Star [De- cember 5, 1997], A1).

Emory Oks Gay Marriage Vows With Strict Campus Limitations

“Associated Press, Atlanta — Methodist-affiliated Emory University will allow gay couples to say marriage or commitment vows in its chapels.

“But the new policy sidesteps a conflict with the United Methodist church by effectively excluding most of the school’s homosexual community.

“As approved by the board of trustees, it requires that all such vows be taken before a religious leader from one of the 24 groups on campus, according to Emory chaplain Susan Henry-Crowe. Of those groups, she said, only the Reform-Jewish synagogue and the United Church of Christ perform such ceremonies” (The Indianapolis Star [November 29, 1997], B5).

The Two Covenants

This is the name of a new thirteen lesson workbook written and published by Johnie Edwards, his two sons (C. Titus and Johnie Paul) and his grandson (John Isaac). In light of the recent teaching about “one covenant” that is used to justify unscriptural marriages, this workbook is very timely. The workbook can be ordered from Truth Bookstore (1-800-428-0121). The lessons include questions for students.

Pottery Shard Points to Temple

“A potshard with an inscription of a receipt may contain the earliest extra biblical reference to Solomon’s Temple in ancient Jerusalem.

“Top biblical scholars seem convinced of its authenticity, despite its unknown source. After surfacing on the antiquities market, the shard became part of the collection of London businessman Shlomo Moussaieff. The inscription is translated: ‘Pursuant to the order to you of Ashyahu the king to give by the hand of Zecharyahu silver of Tarshish to the House (or Temple) of Yahweh. Three shekels.’ “Scholars date the inscription from the ninth century to the seventh century B.C., based on the early-Hebrew script that was common before the Babylonian exile.

Ashyahu is not known as one of the kings of Judah. Univer- sity of Chicago scholar Dennis Pardee suggests the name could be Josiah, who ruled Judah from 640 to 609 B.C.

“Frank Moore Cross of Harvard and P. Kyle McCarter of Johns Hopkins believe the inscription is older, dating per- haps to the reign of King Joash, 835 to 796 B.C.” (Gordon Govier, Christianity Today [January 12, 1998], 60).

Poll Reports More People Believe in God’s Existence

“Washington — This Christmas season, the largest percentage of Americans in a decade profess a belief in God and the existence of miracles.

“A poll commissioned by the Pew Research Center, released Sunday, reported 71 percent of respondents say that they never doubt the existence of God. In 1987, the figure was 60 percent.

“The poll also found that 61 percent of Americans believe miracles come from the power of God — an increase of

14 percentage points from a decade ago.

“And 53 percent said prayer is important to daily life. In 1987, it was 41 percent” (The Indianapolis Star [December

22, 1997), A3).

Teen Drug Use Down Slightly

“Teen drug use dropped slightly last year, the first de- crease since 1992, according to a government  report to be released Wednesday. The National Household Survey on Drug Abuse says nine percent of American teens used drugs in 1996, down from 10.9 percent in 1995, accord- ing to an administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

“Last year’s survey showed that drug used among 12-to-17 years-olds had more than doubled since 1992. That included sharp increases in teen use of LSD, cocaine and marijuana, with usage about the same across ethnic and economic groups. The new report indicates that marijuana use, which accounts for three-fourths of teen drug use, remains statistically unchanged after doubling between 1992 and 1995. Alcohol use among teens dropped from 21.1 percent in 1995 to 18.8 percent last year. Tobacco use remained flat at 18 percent, although use of smokeless tobacco dipped from 1.8 percent to 1.9 percent.

“There was some bad news as well. More teens tried heroin for the first time last year and the number of teens who viewed cocaine as risky dropped. Also, use of hallucinogens edged up. The official speculated that the drop in overall teen drug use might just be cyclical, given how high the rates had reached. The official generally credits private and public sector efforts as contributing to the decline, including the intense focus on hazards of marijuana use. (submitted by Art Adams, IARCCA report of 8/17/97).

Final Words

By Mike Willis

I appreciate the good tone in which this discussion has occurred and commend brother Smelser’s material to brethren. While there are things in his material to which I have objected, I concur with him in objecting to rule by elders or business meetings that is lordly, tyrannical, and dictatorial. On this we are agreed. I have but a few final comments to make in drawing this discussion to a conclusion.

1. The discussion closes without brother Smelser providing a criterion to use in determining which decisions an eldership or business meeting has a right to make. While he asserts that some decisions can be made by elders and business meetings, he objects to all decisions being made there. This leaves us with the unanswered question, “Which decisions do elders or business meetings have the right to make?” After all these pages, the question remains unanswered.

Brother Smelser said they do not have the right to decide to use instrumental music. They cannot because they are not lawgivers; only one is lawgiver (Jas. 4:12). However, he also stated that elders/business meetings should not choose “who the servants are” (par. 11). Please take note of this. Brother Smelser is arguing that elders do not have the right to choose who will be the local preacher or which preacher they may choose to support in another locality. He asserts that these decisions belong to the congregation as a whole. That is why I called attention to the fact that this discussion is about how local congregational decisions are made.

2. The IBM and Congress illustrations. The IBM and Congress illustrations were given, not to show how its officers ruled but to illustrate representative government. Brother Smelser’s response was to cite the California initiatives. Did he not resort to “majority rule” in this response? In this response, decisions are made by majority rule, not by the elected representatives. This discussion is not about abusive elders but about how decisions are made in the local congregation.

3. Acts 15. Brother Smelser used the arguments of the Pharisees and the speeches of Paul, Peter, Barnabas, and James to show how members of a local congregation could take part in making local church decisions, even in the presence of elders. The subject matter on which these men made comment was not “to choose men . . . and to send” but to decide whether or not men had to be circumcised in order to be saved. This was a matter of revelation, not hu- man judgment. The text does not say that the local church members participated in that manner in the decision to send a letter and men with the conclusion reached at Jerusalem. That this seemed good to the whole church does not say that the “whole assembly” method of decision making was employed. Since brother Smelser says that the “whole church” sent, does that not imply that the women members and children members participated in the decision to send to the same extent as the men did? Whatever he can see that the men members did in the words “whole church,” he must conclude that the women members and children members did as well, for there is nothing in the phrase “whole church” that can be used to distinguish what the men did from what the women and children did. This discussion is about how local churches make their decisions.

4. “Assembly method” decision making. Brother Smelser asserted, “To find harmony here with insistence that separated men make all decisions alone, just cannot be done” (par. 17, first article). Anything that allows all decisions to be made by “separated men” does not harmonize with the Scripture, according to brother Smelser. Scripturally qualified elders cannot meet outside the full church assembly to make all of the decisions for the church, brother Smelser argues. They cannot choose church servants (such as local preachers or who the church will support in other locations). (There is a significant difference between an eldership receiving the congregation’s input before making a decision and in the congregation making the decision.) Some decisions have to be made in the assembly. Which decisions can elders or men’s business meetings make out- side the assembly? The question is crying for an answer? This discussion is about how local congregations make their decisions. My contention is that the words of Scripture authorize elders to make decisions for the church. They are “overseers” (Acts 20:28), they qualify themselves for their work by “ruling” their family so that they can “rule” the church (1 Tim. 3:5; 5:17; Heb. 13:7, 17); they have oversight (1 Pet. 5:2). This separated group of men is divinely ordained of God to make decisions in the local church. To avoid “lording” it over the flock, they need to seek the input of those over whom they have oversight and rule. But, after receiving the congregation’s input, the responsibility for making decisions falls, not on the men of the congregation in general, not on the women and children, but upon the elders. This discussion is about how local congregations make their decisions.

Reply

By Dale Smelser

I appreciate Mike’s offer to reply to his response. We have been working at this for over a year. Charges of in- consistency, which may be only in the mind of one who misconstrues what is being discussed, and the iterance of things that seem problems, do not mitigate scriptural prescriptions. Apart from a few observations I am happy to leave it to the reader to judge the applicability of Mike’s objections.

His first statement shows what colored his response. He thought my article was about how decisions are to be made in the local church and that it advocated egalitarianism, which I explicitly rejected. My article is about congregations being involved in things beyond just liturgical worship. It was critical of a view that decrees that all decisions be made by elders or men’s business meetings. That is lordly, and destroys community (sharing). On that limited theme, his third paragraph is a better description of what I believe, if elders’ decisions being “binding on the church” means such as, “We need some servants to take over a certain work and we need seven of them. Choose.” He would have done well to answer what he there said I believed, and which is a pretty good summary of what happened in the New Testament.

That congregations in Scripture made some decisions has long been recognized among brethren. There was a recent article here by Weldon Warnock which said: “Each congregation has the right to choose its own officers. Acts 6:1-7 shows this . . . The church did the selecting and the apostles appointed.” He quoted McGarvey: “We conclude that all church officers were selected by the congregation at large.” He quoted DeHoff: “The New Testament teaches that the power to select officers is in the church itself . . . The church selects its own functionaries for any purpose what- soever (emph. DS) . . . It is not right for a handful of chosen members to get off in a corner and say, ‘We’ll pick out so and so and tell the church.’” If all this is accurate, neither men’s business meetings nor elders’ meetings are the forum of all decisions. What I am saying is not “different.” Noting my article, which Mike had before he had Weldon’s, it is especially in the area of functionaries, representatives, and messengers that I gave scriptural examples.

Mike’s objections to my use of a church appointing its messenger (2 Cor. 8:19) is defused by the quotations from Warnock’s article. If those quotations state truth, some decisions were made by the congregation. Choosing is a decision. The whole multitude chose in Acts 6. Therefore the whole multitude made a decision. The congregation made a decision about “business” (Acts 6:3). He opines that “whole multitude choice” must somehow inappropriately involve women and baptized young people, then concludes that such consequence must nullify the possibility of “whole multitude choice.” Well try this: “The saying pleased the whole multitude . . . and they chose” (Acts 6:4).

Mike graciously notes that I do not insist on all decisions of every nature being made by the congregation, but then argues as if I did. This is why he sees “false dichotomy.” Without some congregational sharing in responsibility, I say, “The alternative is lordly hierarchy and dominated at- tenders.” Yes, elders or business meetings that so operate are guilty. Mike says elders “can oversee a congregation without relegating decision making.” Well, yes. But Scripturally?   In fact, they cannot be leaders and shepherds and abdicate all decision making. But if they oversee as elders in the New Testament, there are decisions they will make in conjunction with the congregation. And Weldon’s article well shows that actual choices were made by the congregation at large in some instances. Was that false dichotomy?

About generic authority for men meeting for business. Okay. My point was that there is specific authority for some congregational involvement. Why exclusively bind the former and prohibit the latter? Now, where is specific or generic authority for men’s meetings to make all decisions for the congregation? Mike says that “oversight and leadership given to elders is withdrawn to the degree that there are limits in the decisions they can make.” No, limits on decisions they can make does not withdraw their leader- ship. It does say something about what oversight is. It is not totalitarian.  Can elders acceptably impose decisions to use instrumental music? Can they make every decision for the congregation? Who the servants shall be? Are there then limits on their permitted decisions? Relegating some decisions defines the kind of rule they have. They don’t have the kind of “rulers of the gentiles” have (Matt. 20:25-26). Though Mike recognizes that elders are not lords, his arguments tend otherwise.

Elders are not equivalent to the IBM board of directors. Elders are shepherds and watchmen, concerned with people’s souls instead of running a business. The kind of rule they have is effected through the leadership the Holy Spirit insists they have proven themselves capable of, and then assigns to them. And even the IBM board is limited in power. Shareholders can bring issues before annual meetings and out vote the board, and they regularly vote on various  issues. Nor does Congress illustrate Mike’s contention. There are citizens initiatives for which California is famous, and the people decide on all sorts of issues including Constitutional Amendments. Mike’s contentions make elders more lordly than Boards and Congress.

Elders as “government” (1 Cor. 12:28) does not tell us how elders operate. There are different ways of governing. There are kings, dictators, tyrants, and chairmen, anarchies, democracies, and republics. Perhaps the footnote to “governments” in the ASV is helpful when it says “wise counsels.” All this passage proves about their government is that it is implemented by counsel. Others passages tell the flock to respect it. And couple that with the fact that elders are not to be self-willed. This tells us some kinds of government they must not employ. And Mike assumes that in this “government” the word translated “rule” applies only to elders. That is incorrect. Check the word rendered rule, first, and chief  (Heb. 13:17; Lk. 22:26: Acts 15:22). It is the same word. Elders share this distinction with others in the congregation. “Rule” is not speaking of government by decree, or else elders must share the decree making.

Mike’s arguments here do not let the church make any decisions. He is saying the church acts in the action of elders and men’s business meetings. But when the apostles made their decision, the church’s decision had not yet been made (Acts 6). Amazingly, what Mike is arguing is, if the apostles had chosen, it could be said that the multitude chose. Furthermore, a representative doing something may involve, but not exhaust, church action. Or it may not. The elders of Ephesus met Paul at Miletus. The church didn’t. Using the example of the churches sending greeting to Corinth (1 Cor. 16:19), the churches acted before Paul. There had to be some church action for Paul to represent.

Mike would like a list of things the church decided in the New Testament. He has a list from me in private correspondence, and there is a list in my article under, “And More.” If it would please him I will be glad to submit a future article expanding on the points made.

You can re-read his paragraph rejecting “assembly method.” All that refers to is an action taken when all the congregation is together; for instance, to meet and deliver one to Satan. That was done by “assembly method” (1

Cor. 5:4). Assemblies acted at times in things beyond social worship. Must I reply to “assembly method” being un-biblical? If what is described is in the Bible, it is biblical.  Now, while we are requiring an exact quote from an English translation in order to be biblical, let’s find “Men’s Business Meeting.”

Note this faulty dilemma: Would “whole multitude choice” follow the decision of children who might be in the majority? Just apply his hypothetical at Jerusalem: “the whole multitude. . . chose.” Does his dilemma undermine that fact?  And my article has specific comments about the unscripturalness of the immature leading and majority rule.  If it is argued that choosing servants was not done in assembly, how does one know that? And if the whole multitude may act and no way is specified, is not acting in assembly an authorized option where feasible? Stating that the congregation acted authorizes the congregation to act, not an exclusive method. While Mike’s arguments seem to prohibit the congregation from making any decisions, if they do share in them his arguments would bind doing so exclusively by the “unassembled method.” He asks incredulously: “May others take leadership and make persuasive recommendations when elders are present in the congregation?” The Pharisees did, others were involved in much questioning, and Peter, Paul, and Barnabas did, as well as James (Acts 15:5, 7, 12). And the appointed lead- ership with the help of other chief brethren brought what Mike objects to, decisions involving assembly consensus: “Then it seemed good to the apostles, and the elders, with the whole church (assembly), to choose men. . . and send” (Acts 15:22). I rest my case.

I do not call for democracy or for elders being only vote counters. I shudder at the thought. But like apostles, elders have a spiritual work that should not be neglected for all the mundane operations of a congregation. Their leadership, and decisions relative to leading, will determine course, and their watching will correct anything amiss. God bless us with such men. For more study I mention my booklet, The Rule of Elders.  I also recommend the volume of Truth Commentaries by Clinton Hamilton on 1 Peter, both in the comments on 1 Peter 5:1-3, and the appendix on Elders, Bishops, or Pastors.

A Response to A Congregation As Community

By Mike Willis

My good friend Dale Smelser has presented for our study the preceding article on how decisions are to be made in the local church. Brother Smelser is an honorable man whose knowledge of the Scriptures and moral character commend itself to us. He deserves to be heard and, therefore, his material is presented. Because there are some statements with which I have disagreement, this response is being offered for your consideration as well.

Brother Smelser does not wish to lend support to the women’s liberation movement and is definite in stating that when the whole church assembles, women are commanded by God to keep silent. We appreciate these statements.

Brother Smelser argues for some decisions being made by congregational, decision-making assemblies, with women present, in addition to some decisions being made by elders or men’s business meetings. Whereas brother Smelser admits that private meetings can be conducted by elders and men’s business meetings, in which some decisions binding on the whole church can be made, he argues that the Bible also authorizes congregational assemblies for the purpose of decision making.

Looking at the Scriptures on Leadership

Before looking at brother Smelser’s specific arguments, one needs to review what the Scriptures teach about leadership in the home and the church. The role of leadership, including decision making, has been given to the man. The man is the head of the home, just as Christ is the head of the church (Eph. 5:23). As the head of his home, he is to provide the same loving, nurturing, and cherishing leadership that Christ provides for his church (Eph. 5:25, 29). His is not to be a selfish, dominating leadership similar to a tyrant.

In the church, God placed leadership in the hands of men, giving specific qualifications for those who are appointed to serve (1 Tim. 3:1-7; Tit. 1:5-7). These men are overseers (Acts 20:28) who have the responsibility to “rule” (1 Tim. 5:17). They are the “government” that God has instituted for the church (1 Cor. 12:28). The church is obligated to be submissive to their rule (Heb. 13:17). Elders are cautioned about “lording” their will over the flock (1 Pet. 5:3). Consequently, their leadership and rule is not that of dictators who never consider the will of those whom they lead. Any charge that I am defending “lordly hierarchy and dominated attenders” would be inaccurate.

There is nothing inconsistent with overseeing the local work for the elders to receive input from and give information to the congregation. That is wise leadership. There are decisions that have to be made with reference to which others inside or outside the congregation are much more knowledgeable than the elders; elders frequently have made use of that technical knowledge to make wise decisions, even if that technical information must be gained from non-Christians (for example, an architect who works on building plans). There needs to be congregational involvement in many aspects of the local work, even though God has given to elders the role of oversight and ruling (Acts 20:28; 1 Tim. 5:17).

Brother Smelser wrote,

But as for general men’s business meetings, some have become so authoritarian, exclusive, and institutionalized that they have supplanted community. I do not believe Acts 6, Acts 15, or any of the other examples cited tell us anything about them. If one must categorize these conclusions, let it be with the community of the assembly of saints in a locality, where the whole group shares in congregational action. The alternative is lordly hierarchy and dominated attenders.

Brother Smelser creates a false dichotomy in arguing his position for decision making by the whole congregation. Anything less than decision making by the entire congregation is “lording it over the flock.” He said, “The alternative is lordly hierarchy and dominated attenders” (par. 6). This conclusion does not logically follow. Godly elders can oversee a congregation without relegating decision making to the “consensus” of the congregation and without “lording it over the flock.”

What Role Do Elders/Men’s Business Meetings Have in Decision Making?

Brother Smelser argues for some decisions being made by the congregational assembly in contrast to them being made by business meetings or elders.

To avoid female usurpation some believe a woman must never be present when congregational decisions are made. Next the idea necessarily follows that assembled congregations can take no decisive actions (par. 3).

But apart from that, where is authority exclusively to employ any group of men-saints, separately and finally, to make all congregational decisions (par. 4).

A brother was appointed by churches to travel with Paul. The churches had to make a decision. This doesn’t say men’s business meetings made decisions (para. 7).

Brother Smelser gave an example of how elders lead in making a decision. He wrote,

. . . The congregation here is authorized to appoint, and no one method larger or smaller can be bound. Thus an assembly of the community is authorized for making the appointment. Can anyone show a statement, implication, or example to prove otherwise? The answer is, no. Can elders, or in their absence others, do the ground work and make persuasive recommendations in their leadership? Yes, but the ultimate appointment lay with the congregations (par. 8).

This cited example emphasizes for us the issue before us. Brother Smelser is calling for a different kind of decision making (rule/oversight) for the congregation. Elders can take leadership and make recommendations (persuasive speeches), but the decision is made by the congregation. He also says that in the absence of elders others can do the same (take leadership and make recommendations). Could those “others” be women? Could they make persuasive recommendations to the congregation? Brother Smelser says “no,” women cannot speak when they attend business meetings, but others who call for women attending business meetings say “yes” they can speak and discuss the relative merits of the various alternatives. And, one may ask, could “others” take leadership and make persuasive recommendations when elders are present in the congregation?

The main point of the quotation cited above is to observe that some of the decisions are made by the congregation, not by elders! This effectively changes the government of the local church from a body overseen by elders to a body that is governed by what some have termed “consensus.”

Brother Smelser believes that “some places are falling short of ‘multitude’ involvement” by allowing all decisions to be made by elders alone or by men’s business meetings in the absence of elders. As a matter of fact, he goes further to charge that the church that has its decisions made solely by elders or men’s business meetings “loses something of the gospel of Christ.” He wrote: “That loses something of the gospel of Christ, however well and orthodoxally intentioned. That is my concern here” (par. 19).

Brother Smelser admits that elders and men’s business meetings have the right to make some decisions for the church, but not all. He needs to provide us a list of what decisions they have the right to make and what decisions they do not have the right to make. Then he needs to pro- vide us the criterion by which he makes this distinction so that we can evaluate it. I understand and concede that the church has the right to select its own officers (Acts 6:3). It also has the right to remove men who become unqualified to serve. However, the selection of elders is for the purpose of their taking the “oversight” (1 Pet. 5:2 — episkopeo — “to look upon, inspect, oversee, look after, care for: spoken of the care of the church which rested upon the presbyters,” Thayer 242), “ruling” (1 Tim. 5:17 — proistemi: “to be over, to superintend, preside over,” Thayer 539; this word is used to compare the husband’s rule in the home to the elder’s rule in the church, 1 Tim. 3:5), and to “rule” (Heb. 13:7, 17 — hegeomai: “to be a leader; to rule, command; to have authority over. . . so of the overseers or leaders of Christian churches,” Thayer 276). What is here given to the elders in their authority to oversee and rule is withdrawn to the degree that they are limited in the decisions they can make. This might be compared to the elections of the United States selecting men to be Congressmen. When they are just as biblically authorized as decisions made by the elders. If not, why not?

Brother Smelser here contends for “consensus,” whether that “consensus” be obtained by positive or negative form (lack of objection), as one autho- rized means for congregations to make decisions. If women and children do not participate in the “consensus” (decision making), then the decisions are made by some group less than the total church, although those decisions are made by the smaller group in the presence of the rest of the church.

Brother Smelser is contradicting himself when he appeals for decisions by the whole church (in contrast to those made by a group smaller than the whole corporate body) and women being silent in the assembly where that decision is made. What kind of “whole assembly” decision making can occur when over 50% (women and children) are not selected to be Congressmen, they have the right to make decisions for the American people. The American people have the right to put them in office and remove them from office. However, the decisions of raising taxes, the budget, and such like things belong to them. What would be the need for having Congressmen if matters had to be decided by general consensus of the citizens of the United States?

Multitude Involvement

Brother Smelser speaks of “multitude involvement” and the “assembly method” of decision making. What is this method of decision making? These are non-biblical terms, although brother Smelser thinks the concept is found in the Bible. But, what is the “assembly method” of decision making? It is not a decision made by elders, because brother Smelser has argued for the assembly method in contrast to that. It is not a decision made by only the men of the congregation, because it is made by the whole congregation. If there is anything less than the total assembly making the decision, he has reduced decision making to that which he opposes — a group smaller than the whole church. He explained that whole church complicity was different from that done by elders or the men of the congregation saying, “To find harmony here with insistence that separated men make all decisions alone, just cannot be done” (par. 17). Hence, anything less than the total church — including women and baptized children — does not fit his mold.

He argues that no specific method of assembly decisions is legislated. “Authorizing a congregation to do something authorizes the congregation to do it, not any specific meth- od. They could therefore use the assembly method” (par. 11). If he is correct, they could use any other method as well because general authority does not restrict. The conclusion logically follows that decision making by “consensus” is permitted to speak? They cannot express what they think about the thing proposed. If they participate in the decision, they are a part of the “consensus”; if they do not participate in the decision, then a group smaller than the whole church has made the decision!

Brother Smelser is logically compelled to one of two choices: (a) accept that a group less than the whole church (elders or, in the absence of elders, the men of the congregation) always makes the decisions or (b) allow women and children full participation in the decision, thus reducing congregational decision making to “consensus.”

The Church Decided

Brother Smelser’s proofs all fall into one category, al- though several Scriptures are cited (Acts 6; 13:1-3; 15:1-3, 30-31; 2 Cor. 8:19; 1 Cor. 5). The point of these texts which he thinks support his conclusion is this: “the whole multitude chose. . . ,” “Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send. . .,” and “who was also chosen of the churches.” Brother Smelser concludes from these statements that the decisions were made by the whole congregation in its assembled body, not by its representatives. This is an inference from the text, the conclusions to which brother Smelser himself would reject (that is, men, women, and children making decisions through “consensus”); it is not a necessary inference.

Paul wrote, “The churches of Asia salute you” (1 Cor. 16:19). How did they do that? Did the whole congregation meet together in its corporate capacity in the various cities of Asia and send their greetings? No, they sent their greetings through their representative, in this case the letter of Paul to the Corinthians.

The church has just as certainly made its decision when that decision is made by its elders (or men in a business meeting) as when the whole congregation gets together and decides things by “consensus.” The question is this: which of these two methods of decision making is authorized in the Scriptures, “consensus” or decision making by elders?

The language of the cited texts (“the church chose”) is very common. A person reads in the newspaper that IBM decided to do something. How did IBM make that decision? Does anyone believe that IBM gathered all of its employees in a room and that the whole group participated in the decision? Everyone understands that IBM made a decision through its representatives appointed to make decisions (board, CEO, etc.). In a similar way, when we read that the church decided to do something, we make an unnecessary inference when we  jump to the conclusion that the decision was made by someone other than its ap- pointed representatives (elders). We frequently read about decisions made by IBM that “please” the corporation. Does that mean that the corporation assembled all of its employees together and a poll was taken to see how many liked the decision? Obviously not! On what basis can we make a similar conclusion when we read about the church being pleased about something?

Answering Some Questions

Brother Smelser asked, “Where is authority exclusively to employ any group of men-saints, separately and finally, to make all congregational decisions?” In response, we see that elders are limited to “men-saints” (1 Tim. 3:1-7) and that they have the role of oversight (1 Pet. 5:1-4; Acts 20:28). If elders cannot make all decisions, brother Smelser needs to define for us what decisions they have authority to make. I respond by asking brother Smelser, “Do you believe that they have the right to make any decision that is binding on the whole church?” I know that he will answer “yes,” so we ask him to tell us what decisions they can and cannot make and what criterion he uses to made that distinction. If the answer were “no,” then elders would be reduced to vote counters for the congregation, because the decision-making authority resides solely in the congregation, not in the elders.

The Role of Women

Brother Smelser insists that 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 forbids women speaking when all of the congregation is in one place (without regard to the kind of meeting that is conducted). He believes that stating that women can never be present when decisions are made is wrong (and I agree). But, he goes on to state the New Testament shows a pattern of “whole multitude choice” in contrast to decisions made by the men isolated from the rest of the congregation. The “whole multitude choice” logically implies women helping to make the decision. This raises a multitude of questions for brother Smelser: (a) When the women outnumber the men in reference to a particular decision, which choice is made? Does “whole multitude choice” mean that the decision supported by the women in the majority predominates over the choice preferred by the minority of men? (b) How do women express their part in the “whole multitude choice”? (c) If the children of a congregation have the majority vote in a congregation, should the “whole multitude choice” method of decision making follow the decision of the children?

Conclusion

The material submitted by brother Smelser, however well intentioned, undermines the role of elders in decision making and substitutes in its place decision making by the assembled congregation.

Let me close by saying again, that the alternative to what brother Smelser proposes is not tyrannical elders who have no regard to the will of those whom they lead. Just as the husband being head of the wife does not justify or defend autocratic and despotic husbands, neither does contending for the oversight of elders lead to the conclusion that elders are tyrants. Just as egalitarianism in the home (male and female with equal authority) undermines the authority of the husband in the home, so does whole congregation decision making undermine the authority of elders.