THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION

By Larry Ray Hafley

Question:

From Indiana: “Hebrews 11:5 states Enoch was translated that he should not see death, but Hebrews 11:13 states that all of these (I assume this to include Enoch also) died in faith. Could you possibly explain in your column this apparent contradiction?”

Reply:

Here is a case where an acknowledged assumption would make one verse cross another. So, why the assumption? The Hebrew writer says Enoch did not see death. He lists others who did-Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sara, Isaac, Jacob. Obviously, then, when he says “these all died in faith” he has reference to the ones who died and not to the exception which he himself lists.

Milligan’s Comments

Robert Milligan, in his commentary on Hebrews, addresses himself to this very question.

“. . . But of whom lea the Apostle here speak? Who are the `all’ who died in faith? Some, as Oecumenlua, Theophylact, and Prlmasius, think that our author refers here to the aforesaid faithful antediluvian Patriarchs, as well as to the postdlluvian. But in this they are manifestly to error. The context makes it quite obvious, that only Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, and Jacob are included In this remark. They are the persons who received the promises (Gal. 3:161, and who might have returned to their fatherland had they been Inclined to do so. But they all preferred remaining as strangers and pilgrims to Cancan, because their hearts were set on the heavenly country into which they hoped to enter soon.

“Not having received the promises; What promises? Manifestly not the verbal promises; for these they did receive (Gal. 3:16): but the word `promises’ (epangVai) is used here to denote the things promised. These they did not receive during their earthly pilgrimage; they only saw them afar off, and `greeted them as the wanderer greets his longed-for home, even when be comes in sight of h at a distance; drawing to himself, as it were, magnetically and embracing, with inward love, that which is yet star off:” (Robert Milligan, Commentary on Hebrews, p. 400).

As Milligan suggests, Enoch was not a part of those who received the promises. Look at verse 15. “And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.” To whom does “they” refer? It does not include Enoch. He was not the one who was called out of Chaldea (Gen. 12:1-4; Heb. 11:8).

Conclusion

Admittedly, there are difficulties in some Biblical texts that we might not know as much about as we would like to know. However, let us remember that God is right, and His word is eternal. Let us be slow to charge those who were moved by the Spirit with writing error. We may unwittingly charge the Lord with mistakes in so doing. Examine, study, question and seek to learn more about what you do not understand. It is good that our querist has submitted this question, but let us all approach such questions with a deep reverence for the greatness of our God.

Truth Magazine XIX: 32, pp. 507-508

June 19, 1975

What is Truth? (III)

By Roy E. Cogdill

Standards are essential in our complex way of life today. Standards of weight, measurement, time, exchange, etc., eliminate confusion and uncertainty and simplify life for us. They are essential. But by what right and by whom are they established? For each to try to establish his own destroys any sort of standardization. Standards cannot be established by independent groups within the people for they would still vary so much that there would be no standard at all. There is but one way by which standards can be established and receive recognition and that is the function of government –authority-to prescribe the standards by which we are to live.

Each government has the authority and right to establish the standards by which its subjects are to live. They vary from country to country. In Canada, for example, a gallon measurement requires the equivalent of five American quarts. Their quarts, gallons, etc., are a fourth larger than ours in the United States. Why is this true? For the reason that they conduct their own affairs, under their own government, they have the right to establish the standards for their country even as we do for ours.

Religious Authority

Religious standards, however, cannot be determined by political power, or human wisdom, or authority. Religion is man’s relationship with God and is therefore regulated by the authority of God and not man. This is the dividing line between truth and error, divine and human authority. Jesus prescribed that it should be so.

In Matt. 16 when Jesus raised the question, “Whom do men say that I the Son of man am,” his disciples replied, “Some say that thou art John the Baptist; some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.” This shows that confusion existed among the people as to the identity of Jesus and that they were divided in their opinions, as men always are. One of these opinions among the people was just as good as any of the rest,but none of them was any good at all for they were all wrong. Human doctrines in religious or spiritual matters are always wrong. “The way of man is not in himself; it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps” (Jer. 10:23). Jesus said, “Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoreth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men” (Matt. 15:6-9). Human doctrines and ways always conflict with the will and Word of God and make our religion vain.

Again, Jesus, when he was confronted with a challenge by the chief priests and elders of the people in the temple who demanded, “By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?”, drew the line again on the question of authority at exactly the same point-between what God says and what man says. In his reply he raised the question, “The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or men?” The universe is God’s domain and man is his creation. Sovereignty belongs to Jehovah and He, alone, has the right to rule over the hearts and lives of men and women. We are responsible to Him and accountable to Him. Our salvation depends upon pleasing Him. We must be directed, therefore, by His will and His Word.

The Standard: God’s Word

The only common denominator in religious affairs is the Word of God. It is the sole standard by which the truth of anything religiously can be determined. Until men are willing to recognize and be governed by it, there will be no end to confusion. False standards are commonly relied upon and they deceive and mislead us. Jesus said, “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” This is the one and only standard by which truth can be determined.

Man’s Intelligence

Sometimes men brush the Word of God aside with “But I think thus and so.” They make of their own intellect an idol and reject God when they thus reject His Word. God has not left the thinking up to us, nor are we indeed capable of doing it. God has done the thinking and left it to us to believe! This does not mean that the religion of Christ is unreasonable but that it is unreasoning. We walk by faith and not by the way things seem to us! (2 Cor. 5:7).

Then, often, people want to rely on their feelings. This writer talked with a man and his wife a short time ago, who wanted to testify that they had the Spirit of God dwelling within them and they could tell it by the way they felt. They would not be led by the Spirit through what the Spirit has revealed as the truth in God’s Word. Every passage of scripture offered, they brushed aside and wanted to disprove it’s testimony by their testimony as to what they felt. This is both unreasoning and unreasonable and certainly nullifies faith in the Word of God and the revelation of the Holy Spirit. Those who have the Spirit of Christ, and are therefore His, must walk, live, be led by the Spirit and this evidences that the Spirit dwells in them and that they are “in the Spirit and not in the flesh” (Rom. 8:116). Personal feelings could justify anything believed or done by anyone, heathen or Christian, if the individual was sincere.

Inherited Religion

Many others want to reject God’s standard of truth-His Word-in favor of their inherited tradition in religion. They are sure that the religion of their fathers is also good enough for them and they hesitate not to turn away from the plain declarations of the Word of God to’ stay with what their fathers and mothers taught them. This is ancestor worship, and destroys faith in God and His Word. This means that whatever religion one inherits from his fathers is true and right, whether it is Buddhism, Hinduism, Mohammedism, Catholic or Protestant. Acceptance of inherited religion as authoritative would cause one to conclude that the Jews are justified in their rejection of Christ as the Son of God, the promised Messiah, because their fathers did not believe in Him. No one could ever learn any better or be any better than his ancestors, if such a course is to be accepted.

Church Infallibility

Catholics believe that the church is superior in authority to the Word of God. The church is first in authority to them. Their traditions are next and the Word of God ranks with them below both of these. This makes it impossible to get them to recognize the truth until they can be taught that authority is not in the church, man, or human traditions, but in God and His Word. In discussing religion with Catholics, this writer has found it impossible to get anywhere until they are willing to listen to what the Bible plainly says. There must be a common denominator or there cannot be unity. Those who do not believe in Catholicism will not accept the dictum of their hierarchy, the voice of the church, or their human tradition, and Catholics will not accept the Bible. So with such an attitude, there is a stalemate until the Word of God can be established as the sole source of authority and the one and only standard of religion.

Truth Magazine XIX: 32, pp. 506-507
June 19, 1975

Personal Evangelism (II) : Significance

By William C. Sexton

How important is personal evangelism? Until we see the results of this activity and become impressed with them, we shall be inactive in this great work. Therefore, we need to emphasize the Bible significance of this. We need, therefore, to ask the question, “does the Bible point to the significance of personal evangelism?” The answer is “Yes!” Let us notice how we can arrive at this conclusion:

1. Men are lost without the gospel, and Christians are the only ones to bring the gospel and sinful man together (Rom. 3:23; 6:23; Eph. 3:8-9; 2 Tim. 2:2). Before the sinner can act to have his sins forgiven, he must be brought to realize that he is in a lost condition. Such is the mission of our teaching: to inform, to convict, to move! The sinner must be brought to realize that there is a plan by which he must be saved, if he is to be saved (Acts 4:12; 1 Peter 1:2). To the hostile world, the apostles said of Jesus, “For there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby men must be saved.” Peter, while addressing the “elect,” pointed to the two sides of salvation, (1) the Divine and (2) the human. God made the plan “according to the foreknowledge of God,” the Holy Spirit revealed the plan “through sanctification of the Spirit,” and Christ Jesus executed the plan (note “the sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ . . . .”). Each of these did their work so that man by “obedience” could be saved by the plan!

The sinner must be brought to the realization that God and His people love him and are working together for his salvation (1 Cor. 3:5-9). Paul had preached the gospel, Apollos had contributed by’ watering, but God had given the increase. All of God’s children have a part in this great cooperative; God’s message is to be conveyed by man to man, in order- to produce faith upon which he can act and be forgiven by God. Without the agency of man, men will hot hear the gospel and thus cannot act and be saved!

2. God commands his children to work to the end that men might be saved (Matt. 5:13-16; Phil. 2:14-16). We cannot please Him if we do not act as He instructs us in this matter. ” Jesus said to do the “will” of the Father was “meat” to Him. Anticipating delaying attempts, He warns against putting off the work by saying that there is some time before “harvest!” The fields are “white already to harvest.” All we, who are His disciples, need to do is “lift up” our “eyes.” Then we need to see the great need and the potential which is great.

We manifest a lack of understanding or concern for men if we do not seek with zeal and zest to inform, convince, and move them to accept the plan of God (Matt. 7:12). If we are without zeal and zest in gaining the attention of others and directing them to the plan of God, then we must be without one of the essential ingredients of the do unto others as would we not, knowing what we know of salvation, want others to tell us of the gospel plan-if we were without it? Therefore, if we are saved and have not this driving urge to tell others, then something is out of kilter, something is missing in this arrangement. We cannot be satisfied without making an all-out effort to tell others while we have time and while they have time, because we may not be here tomorrow or they may have .passed from the scene, and, in either case; the opportunity will be gone for ever.

3. Christ pointed to the specific need (Matt. 9:37-38; Luke 10:2). The significance of this great work ought to begin to make its impact on our consciousness when we realize that if we fail to teach these people they are going to be lost! Thus if we do not succeed, these people will be lost forever, without hope-simply because the gospel must be presented to them, and they must accept it and apply it in their lives or be lost. Do we believe that? Do we now begin to see how important our mission is? Do we see how important this aspect of our work is? However, let us not overlook another fact: if we do not try to save them, beloved, we shall be lost, too! Look closely at Ezek. 3:18; and Acts 20:26-27 to see if Paul is not taking as a basis of his argument the statement or principle made by Ezekiel; then draw the inference correctly!

Moreover, if we try, we shall succeed (John 15:2). No, we will not win every soul we deal with, but we shall win some! Additionally, we shall save our soul by trying, whereas we would have lost it by not trying. By telling others, we shall grow in spiritual strength (Heb. 5:11-14). On the other hand if we fail to exercise our faculties, our members, we shall remain as babes, unskillful in the word of righteousness and in time die spiritually.

Experience is essential to growth in the spiritual realm as well as in the physical; experience is essential to becoming efficient; experience and efficiency are both essential to accomplishment. Many have not the confidence because they have waited so long without making an effort. Being afraid of making a mistake, they make the biggest mistake of all-by failing to try!

4. Personal evangelism can reach the heart of the problem as no other method of teaching can. First, a person can be contacted who would never be contacted by any of the other methods of teaching. Each member of the Lord’s church has some contacts that no other member has. Each member has some particular influence with a person or persons that no other member has or can ever have. Many people never have been to an assembly of the saints and yet they know a member of the church who can talk to them about their soul salvation. Secondly, one may attend the assembly and have a lot of questions and never have them answered, unless a personal effort is made by some message of Christ. For He tells us to we would have them do unto us, and individual. But by this method one can learn of the question, respond to it, and perhaps remove an obstacle that will hinder this person for years or may keep him from ever obeying the gospel. Thirdly, one can make a specific and personal appeal for this person to make application of the scriptures to his life then and there. Many are somewhat timid and hold back in the assembly, whereas in the private study they can be persuaded to obey the gospel at that hour, as they did in Bible times (Acts 16:30-34). A word of caution, I feel, is in order, however. Let us not unduly over do the selling! Do not persuade a person to act against his will before he is convinced of the facts. I feel that some have been pushed into baptism; they are not really converted nor are they of any value to themselves or to others.

Yes, beloved, personal evangelism is significant. It cannot replace the assembly teaching, the Bible class arrangement of teaching, the teaching done by the printed page, nor the teaching done by way of radio or TV, but it has its unique need and place in the Lord’s plan. And in my judgment, it is the most neglected part of the Lord’s plan in most congregations of the Lord’s people today! Why? Perhaps because we preachers, elders, and others of influence in the congregation, are not really sold on the idea that we personally can and should do personal evangelism. And if we are not doing it, we are not going to get many others to do it. Even though we talk about it most of the time, we teach a more powerful message-the most influential one of all-by what we do, by our actions! Is personal evangelism significant in the work you have done for the Lord’s cause last week? Is it evidenced by your actions?

Truth Magazine XIX: 32, pp. 504-505
June 19, 1975

Preaching in the Philippines

By Cecil Willis

This article is being written in Alice Springs, Australia. After preaching for a month in the Philippines, I then came to Australia for an additional month of work here. I left home on March 28th and am scheduled to return home on June 4th, though I must leave from home again within about ten days. So far as I can recollect, this trip is the longest (both in mileage and duration) that I have ever made to preach the gospel. By the time I get back home, I will have travelled a little over 30,000 miles while on this trip. But this article is intended to be a summary-type report on our preaching within the Philippines, so without further introduction I had better get to that task.

Arrival in Manila

The Philippine people justly are known for their profuse hospitality. Though we arrived in Manila at 5:40 A. M., there were several dozens of brethren and sisters who met us at the airport. At least 30 preachers met us at the airport. Can’t you just imagine how many American brethren we would be able to get to an airport at 5:40 A. M. to meet two visiting preachers? It probably would take some arm-twisting to get one brother to the airport so early in the morning. Yet some of those who met us had traveled 100 miles or so in order to greet us. Such consideration and hospitality would have to be poured out upon a gross heart for it to go unappreciated.

There are many interesting incidents that occurred while we were in the Philippines, but I know the readers of this journal primarily are interested in the gospel preaching done. Thus my remarks largely will be confined to our preaching. Perhaps I should tell you at the outset of this report that I did not keep detailed notes while traveling, as did Brother Connie W. Adams. So in the event that there should be any discrepancy between the numbers that I report and those he has reported, it is probable that his are the correct ones. Anyone who has traveled with me knows that I have hard enough time keeping up with my personal belongings, and therefore can afford very little time for keeping of statistics. I have never even personally taken a camera with me on any of my preaching trips. Someone usually is generous enough to permit me access to photographs which they have made, and the Filipinos are unusually generous in this regard.

Lectures in Makati

Makati is located in one of the better sections of Manila; in fact, it appeared to me that more new building was going on in Makati than in any other section of Manila. The Republic of the Philippines has been under martial law for about two years. While martial law is little to be desired by any people, yet I think I can say without exception (or at least almost so) that every Filipino to whom I spoke preferred it to the chaos in regard to law and order which previously existed in that country.

The last time I was in Manila was in 1970, when Brother Roy E. Cogdill and I made a preaching trip there. One who has not seen Manila in the interim would hardly believe the changes that have been made. Magnificent new buildings are springing up very rapidly. An enormous, and very beautiful, new building was erected in just sixty days so that it might be used for the international beauty contest held in that country not long ago. In addition to scores of new buildings, the city has really been cleaned up. A lot of undesirable housing has been demolished and new apartment buildings erected. The Philippine economy has been in disarray, so a program of public works has been started. Thousands of people are being employed in a clean-up and beautification program. Furthermore, it now is much safer for people to be out on the streets. One would have to have experienced conditions as they were in the past to appreciate properly the improvements that have been made and are being made. I might just add that such projects are underway throughout the Republic of the Philippines.

In 1971, Brother Connie Adams and Brother J. T. Smith were invited to speak at a Christian Church on Dian Street in the Makati district. It was their good pleasure personally to witness the removal of the mechanical instrument of music from that meeting house. The Dian congregation previously had made its fight to maintain its congregational ownership of its property, as many Christian Churches have had to do. Through the preaching efforts then made and others that followed, the Dian Street church eliminated its innovations and accepted a Biblical position in name, organization, worship and work, and since has been working to God’s glory. The lectures which were held in Manila were conducted in the Dian Street meeting house. Brother Adams and I did not speak any place without express invitation and authorization of the Elders or congregation which met in that place.

About fifty preachers of the gospel attended one or more of the sessions that were held for four days at Dian Street. The attendance at the evening sessions in Dian congregation was 332, 359, 337, and 256. The day sessions were attended by lesser numbers, obviously because many could not get free from their work obligations. But the day attendances were 125-150.

As we had announced that we would do beforehand, Brother Adams spoke in each place on “Miraculous Divine Healing,” and “Premillennialism.” Nearly all the lessons that I gave were on the subject of “How To Study the Bible.” However, we were explicitly asked to deal with some first-principle type material the evening sessions at each place. The evening sessions were evangelistic in nature, whereas the day sessions were directed toward helping to train preachers and to build up the knowledge of other members. There were 27 baptized during the Dian Street meeting.

While we report on the number baptized in each place, it must be understood that Brother Adams and I had very little to do with the preparatory teaching of those who were baptized. Almost without exception, those baptized had been taught previously by Filipino preachers. In fact, we had the privilege of listening to several Filipino preachers speak at various times during each lecture program. Everywhere we went, we taught brethren that no person should ever for any reason postpone his baptism. As previously was done in this country, when nearly all those baptized within a year would be baptized during a Summer gospel meeting, there seems to be some tendency on the part of some to postpone their immersion. My brethren,, this ought not so to be.

Pagadian City

After leaving Manila, we went to the large southern island of Mindanao, which is perhaps 700 miles from Manila. In this city a very excellent lecture program was held. In fact, in most respects, the Pagadian meeting was probably the best one held while we were in the Philippines. Attendance for the four days of the lecture -program there was 2??, 320, 287, and 448. Full programs were conducted during the day-time hours. Much of the preaching done during the programs was done by Filipino preachers. We heard some very able men preach, and we profited much by hearing them preach. The number baptized at Pagadian City was 33. Within the last few years, 13 denominational preachers have been converted in the Pagadian City area.

For a couple of years or so, some have known of some difficulties that existed in Pagadian City between Brother Eduardo Ramiro and Brother R. G. Carino, both of whom preach in Pagadian. We are glad to report that it appears that those problems were entirely and scripturally settled. Both brethren asked the forgiveness of each other, amidst the shedding of many tears. Brother Adams and I had been asked to meet with these two brethren and to try to help them to settle their difficulties. Both men were manly enough and Christian enough to make public confessions of their having wronged each other. These confessions were made by the men themselves, and they were explicit in regard to what had occurred. With these problems resolved, I preached for the congregation on the Lord’s Day where Brother Carino preaches. There were 68 present for that service. Brother Adams preached where Brother Ramiro works, and with the lecture program scheduled to be held in their meeting house, it was here that there were 448 present on the Lord’s Day. Totaling the attendances, there were 516 present that Lord’s Day in Pagadian City, a city of slightly less than 100,000 population.

Political conditions were somewhat less than ideal for a lecture program to be held in Pagadian City. A sizable war has been going on between the Philippine Government and the Moslems on the southern islands. I think the Moslems number something like 600,000. We left -Pagadian City on April 15th. From March 15th through April 15th, there were 74 people killed in and around Pagadian City in connection with this insurgency. About 500 people have been killed in the Pagadian City area within the last two years. Jet fighter planes have sometimes been involved in the conflict, and -napalm and other bombs have been dropped. We visited the Mayor of one nearby Moslem community. The three houses next to his office had been bombed only two weeks before. A bus was ambushed on Thursday before we arrived on Monday. Among those shot was a sister-in-law of Brother Eduardo Ramiro, in whose home we stayed.

Apparently the military officials, as well as the brethren, were concerned to see that no incident occurred involving us while we. were there. So fourteen soldiers were stationed to guard the house where we slept. There was shooting every night, and once firing was perhaps no more than fifty yards from where we were staying. But at no time did it appear that we were in any particular danger. Of course, we were vulnerable to bus ambushes, just as were others who lived there. During the week there, we traveled about 500 kilometers in a minibus, but there were no incidents that endangered us.

Kidapawan Lectures

The third lecture series was held in Kidapawan, which is approximately in the middle of the island of Mindanao. We flew to Davao, and then went about 100 kilometers Westward to Kidapawan. The brethren in Kidapawan had arranged to use a public school building in which to conduct the lectures. Several preachers live in Kidapawan, including Romulo B. Agduma, Virgilio Villaneuva, and Juanito Balbin. The Moslem war disturbance has forced a number of brethren to evacuate their usual living places. But much effective preaching is continuing to be done in that area.

If memory serves me correctly, there were something like 20 who were baptized during the lecture program in Kidapawan. There were later lecture series held at Romblon and on the island of Palawan. The total number baptized during the five lecture programs was slightly over 125.

Going from the Winter weather of Indiana to midSummer in the Philippines was a little too much of a temperature differential for me. Six times after preaching, I became ill from being over-heated. The sixth instance occurred in Kidapawan. The extreme heat caused my blood pressure to increase to a point of danger. Thus I had to cut my stay in Kidapawan one day short, which was regrettable to me. For a few hours I had to be hospitalized, and the doctor recommended that I curtail my travel somewhat thereafter. Since there were several other things that needed some attention, I therefore sought to attend to those and Brother Adams and some Filipino brethren continued on to Romblon and Palawan. Connie and I only saw each other for a few hours thereafter, and I therefore am going to make no attempt to report on the briefer lecture series in the latter two places. However, I think that attendance was about 160, at least for some of the meetings, in each of the two latter places.

The Moslems were in control of the territory some six to eight miles West of Kidapawan. I heard that approximately one thousand soldiers arrived in Kidapawan the same day we did, though I did not see very many soldiers. The only difficulty that we experienced anywhere was a rather ludicrous attempt on the part of three persons to rob us while we were in the hotel at Kidapawan. Connie heard someone snooping outside our door about 1:00 A. M., the electricity having been turned off at midnight. I climbed up on a chair and listened through a transom over the door until I became convinced that there was indeed someone outside our door. We had adjoining rooms with Brother and Sister Eduardo Ramiro. I asked Connie to slip in and awaken Eddie. I thought Eddie had some kind of protection with him, since he was a member of the home defence corp. The signal was that I was suddenly to open our door, turn on a three-cell flash light, and Eddie and I were going to step out into the hall at the same time. Just to befuddle the would-be robbers more, I gave my best imitation of the famous “Rebel Yell.” Eddie stepped out into the hall on signal, but he did not have any weapon with him. I guess the “Rebel Yell” did the trick, for the man fled down two flights of stairs. He had two companions outside, one of whom was just outside the supposed-to-be-closed iron gate, and the other was on top of an adjacent three story building. They exchanged flash light signals for a couple of hours. We even tried our own hand at using the flash light signal procedure, and they responded to our signal also. No one was hurt, no one lost anything, but it surely made for a more lively night.

Summary

As does every country, the Philippine brethren have some serious deficiencies upon which they need to work, and upon which many of them are working. It appears virtually certain that some men are being supported who are unworthy of support. But let it also be said that I hardly know of anything of which any Filipino preacher is guilty of which some American preacher also has not been guilty. But the sin of American or Filipino is not hidden in God’s sight, nor must we gloss over it. Every effort will be made by those who are supporting men there to try to ferret out any deceivers and frauds, as well as any who are not laboring diligently in doing the Lord’s work.

But on the other hand, it would be a grave injustice to blame the innocent on the basis of the guilt of a few. With whatever faults which exist, the Philippines still constitute the ripest harvest field known to me personally. Individual Christians could render a most helpful service by sending a good study book a month to some faithful Filipino preacher. Truth Magazine Bookstore has an arrangement whereby you may pay for one book each month, and we will ship the book as you instruct us to do so. An endless supply of tracts on every Bible subject could be put to good use. I know of no place where one tract will get more readings than those distributed in the Philippines.

Some of the things that preachers repeatedly said they needed were song books and communion sets. If the congregation has a communion set that it has out-grown and replaced, please get in contact with me and I will supply the name and address of a preacher who says one is needed in his work. And though something between five and seven thousand song books have been sent, there are yet requests for hundreds more. If you should know of usable books that are not being used, let me know about them, and I will send you the address of a preaching brother who has requested song books. There is a dire need for song books in about three native dialects-the Subano, Illocano, and Tagalog. It would be best if these song books could be printed in lots of 10,000, in order to keep the per copy price down. I am thinking of publishing in each dialect something like a 128 page, paper-back song book. If some individual or congregation would like to pay for one such printing, I will be glad to assist you in getting the books printed and shipped. You would pay only the exact printing costs, along with shipping costs.

Debate on Philippine Bible College

After five years of stalling, my old Florida College schoolmate, Brother Robert Buchanan, now seems willing to have a written debate on whether the Philippine Bible College is scriptural in organization and financing. In Brother Buchanan’s correspondence in regard to the proposed debate, he placed so much emphasis upon the fact that he will defend the Philippine Bible College as it now (“present tense,” he emphasized) is operated that I thought I should talk to him regarding any, recent changes before entering into a debate agreement.

Upon arriving in the Philippines, I found that the Philippine Bible College is right in the middle of a process of trying to alter their operational arrangement. It appears they deliberately sought to make it appear that I did not know how PBC is operated. Since these efforts have been underway for about two years, I suppose Brother Buchanan thought they would have all their legal change-over work done before we could get a debate underway. Their last legal document was accepted by the Philippine Government on March 12, 1975, just about a month before I talked with Buchanon and Douglas LeCroy at Angeles City. It appears that they are trying to transfer everything from the control of the Inglewood, California church to the church in Baguio, where the Philippine Bible College is located. The status, as of the time when I talked with Buchanan and LeCroy, was that the Inglewood church had transferred ownership of the Baguio church building to the Baguio church. However, the March 12, 1975 incorporation papers of the Baguio church states that it owns no “real” property, though they state that they have assets of 200,000 pesos. So evidently, Inglewood still owns the land upon which the meeting house of the Baguio church now sits. But, Buchanan and LeCroy told me that some additional papers had been filed and evidently approved since those approved on March 12, 1975. I have taken the necessary steps to procure the latest papers. When I get home, Bob and I will then make final arrangements to begin writing the debate. He intends to publish it privately in booklet form for distribution throughout the Philippines. In all probability, I will publish the discussion in Truth Magazine, but I want all the exchanges in my hands before I begin running the debate. We agreed to allow each other up to one month in which to make a reply to a preceding article. Due to my travel schedule, I could not promise to have my reply written within two weeks, as Brother Buchanan proposed. For instance, when I return home, I will have been gone 16 out of the last 19 weeks. This week is the first week I have had access to a typewriter similar to the one to which I am accustomed to use since I left home March 28th.

One interesting outcome of our three hour discussion in Angeles City was that we learned that Bob Buchanan will not debate anything he believes, teaches, or practices with a Filipino. Yet, heretofore, the liberals have insisted that Americans who visit in the Philippines debate Filipino liberals. For example, in 1971 Brother J. T. Smith debated Eusebio Laquata at M’lang, which debate was published and resulted in many brethren learning the truth. But since Brother Buchanan thinks it so unwise for an American to debate either a Filipino or an American in .the Philippines, apparently he now thinks it wise to debate an American in writing, intending to distribute the debate in the Philippines in booklet form himself.

But if Brother Buchanan does indeed think it unwise for two Americans to debate orally in the Philippines, it seems logical that he should therefore be in favor of an American debating an American orally in America. Since Inglewood is in the metropolitan Los Angeles area, I have suggested that it would be good if he and I were to debate the sponsoring church arrangement under which the Philippine Bible College has been operated in the metropolitan Los Angeles area. There are about 50 faithful churches in Greater Los Angeles, so I do not think I will have any trouble getting some congregation to endorse me for such a discussion, and to share equally the cost of conducting such a discussion. Now, will Brother Buchanan agree to a discussion in the Greater Los Angeles area? Will Inglewood endorse him for such a discussion?

Brother Buchanan has sought to excuse himself from participating in such a discussion with me in California on the grounds that he would have to provide me an audience. That is a lame and even laughable excuse. I challenged him to name one debate that has been held on the institutional and sponsoring church issues- in America where the faithful brethren did not out-number the liberals in attendance. It just might be possible that there have been a few debates where the liberals outnumbered the faithful brethren in attendance, but neither Brother Buchanan nor I could think of one. In fact, the last debate on these questions that I attended was at Joliet, Illinois (Metropolitan Chicago area). I moderated for Brother Larry Hafley who defended and taught the truth in that debate. The meeting house was filled. You know how many liberals were present? So far as is known to any of us, there were only four: the debater and his wife, and his moderator and wife. Then they talk about furnishing us an audience! I feel sure that I could guarantee Brother Buchanan that more faithful brethren would attend such a discussion than would liberals. For some strange reason, the liberals have lost their taste for debates, at least in America. Yet they would like for their Filipino brethren to think we are all “running scared” of them.

Brother Buchanan is scheduled to be back in America before too long, if I remember correctly. The tape of our discussion is being transcribed, and I should soon be able to check to see for sure what Bob said about when he would be in America again. But I will not even make any issue of when he is going to return to America. I simply ask that we agree upon an oral discussion in the Los Angeles area whenever he returns, and elsewhere if he wishes to have more than one such discussion. I am made to wonder, by Brother Buchanan’s attitude about who would have the most in attendance, if he would not debate a Baptist or a Catholic unless the Baptists or Catholics got out a larger attendance than Bob could get out.

The truth is, I seriously doubt whether Bob Buchanan orally will debate anything he believes or practices with anyone, anywhere in the world! But whether he will debate orally or not, we have a general agreement to conduct a written discussion. We should be able to get the written discussion underway without much delay. However, I shall expect Brother Buchanan to inform me of any subtle changes they may make in the organization and financing of the Philippine Bible College, either prior to or during the writing of the debate.

Close

Since the brethren who have been to the Philippines since 1970 have written extensively about the Work there, I will not elaborate upon it further. Suffice it to say that the work in general seems to be going extraordinarily well, though there are some spots with serious problems and some men have proven to be a great disappointment to one and others who have placed implicit confidence in them. But sin is sin, whether it occurs in America or in the Philippines, and we dare not try to whitewash it in either case. But neither should the sins of a few prejudice us against the vast majority of men who have done in the past, and continue to do commendable works in the Lord’s vineyard.

Personally it was a tremendously joyous occasion to see the brethren in the Philippines again. Rodi Tan, as usual, made himself available to assist us in every way he possibly could in making our travel easier. One of the objectives which I had in mind in my return to the Philippines was to see Rodi and his wife, Erlinda, become Christians. We left them “almost persuaded” to become Christians, but as the song states, “Almost cannot avail; Almost is but to fail; Sad, sad that bitter wail; Almost-but lost.” I shall continue to pray for the day when Rodi and his wife shall put on our Lord Jesus Christ by being baptized into Him. Several of us are determined that we shall not rest until they become “altogether persuaded” to become Christians.

The tie that binds our hearts to those stalwart men in the Philippines is a strong one, and a few days of close work together brings us to tears when we come to separate, perhaps to meet on this earth no more. But we shall anxiously look toward that grand meeting of all the Lord’s saints when time on this earth shall be no more. Meanwhile, let us all pray that God’s will might be done throughout the earth, as His will is done in heaven. Those Filipino brethren whom I have so quickly grown to love in truth shall often be upon my heart, and their names shall be upon my tongue when I pray. As did the apostle Paul, we shall pray that whether we come and see them or be absent, that we may hear of their faith, that they stand fast, with one heart, with one soul, striving for the faith of the gospel (Phil. 1:27).

Truth Magazine XIX: 32, pp. 499-504
June 19, 1975