That’s A Good Question

By Larry Ray Hafley

Question:

From Georgia: I would like to ask your help on a problem I am now facing. The “‘problem” concerns the Christian’s attendance when the church comes together. Of course, this centers around a dispute on the meaning and application of Hebrews 10:25. Enclosed is a sketch of both sides of this issue as it relates to the work here. I would appreciate your analysis of the problem along with any suggestions which you might have on how to handle the problem. I have done quite a bit of study on this subject as has the brother with whom I disagree. We have come to a stalemate, and, therefore, it is my feeling that a third party might be able to help us in our study.

“His Position:

1. Hebrews 10:25 cannot be applied to missing only one service, because the word “assembling” (which is in the plural) is used.

2. The word ‘forsake’ in the context of Hebrews 10 means and is limited to (1) ‘sinning willfully’ (v. 26), (2) ‘trodding underfoot the Son of God’ (v. 29), (3) ‘counting the blood of the covenant an unholy thing’ (v. 29), and (4) ‘doing despite unto the Spirit of grace’ (v. 29). In other words, it involves quitting with no intention of coming back.

3. Hebrews 10:25 is not the rule because there are no exceptions to it.

4. Therefore, a Christian can miss services for a fishing trip, hunting, watching television, etc., and not be sinning, provided he takes the Lord’s supper on Sunday at one service.

“My Position:

1. Hebrews 10:25 is the rule concerning regular and faithful attendance.

2. Even though Hebrews 10:25 is the rule, there are some exceptions. (Jesus recognized unstated exceptions to the law of Moses-Matthew 12:2-5, 11,12.) However, these exceptions involve a conflict in God-given duties (Matt. 23:23). As an example of this conflict, being sick during service time may involve a conflict in the duties of taking care of my body (Eph. 5:29) and attending the services (Heb. 10:25). Another illustration would be sitting with the sick, which involves showing mercy (Matt. 23:23). Any exception involves personal judgment as to which is the weightier of the God-given duties.

3. If any Christian puts anything except a God-given duty ahead of the services, he has violated Hebrews 10:25.

“Questions:

1. Can Hebrews 10:25 apply to missing one service?

2. In practical terms, what constitutes ‘forsaking?’

3. Is Hebrews 10:25 a rule? If so, are there exceptions to the rule? If there are exceptions, how does one determine them?

4. If Hebrews 10:25 is the rule, are we commanded to assemble? If we are not commanded to assemble, then why do we assemble?”

Reply:

The text in question: “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching” (Heb. 10:25).

“His Position”

1. Suppose one stood before a large audience and inquired, “Will everyone who has children please stand up?” Should one who has only one child stand up? Yes, even though children is plural.

We are not to forsake the act of assembling as some customarily and habitually do. It is “the assembling,” not the assemblies, that is not to be forsaken. According to our brother’s position, the Hebrew writer should have said, “Not forsaking the assemblies.” However, he said, “the assembling,” or “the act of assembling” (M. R. Vincent). “Some expositors have understood the word here rendered assembling . . . as meaning the society of Christians, or the church; and they have supposed that the object of the apostle here is, to exhort them not to apostatize from the church . . . . But the more obvious interpretation is that which is commonly adopted, that it refers to public worship. The Greek word (the noun) is used nowhere else in the New Testament, except in 2 Thess. ii.l, where it is rendered gathering together. The verb is used in Matt. xxiii.37; xxiv.31; Mark i. 33, xiii.27; Luke xii.l ; xiii.34, in all which places it is rendered gathered together. It properly means an act of assembling, or a gathering together, and is nowhere used in the New Testament in the sense of an assembly, or the church. The command, then, here is, to meet together for the worship of God, and it is enjoined on Christians as an important duty to do it. It is implied, also, that there is blame of fault where this is ‘neglected.'” (Albert Barnes, comments on Heb. 10:25).

2. Admittedly, the context, as cited by our brother, is to be considered, but let us note all the context. Hebrews 10:23 says, “Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering.” Granting our brother his assumptions, we conclude that missing an occasional service is the beginning of wavering and apostasy. We are not to abandon completely, but neither are we to waver. So, if verses 26 and 29 do not forbid purposeful non-attendance, then verse 23 does.

Our brother’s conclusion is, “it involves quitting with no intention of coming back.” However, this is prohibited by the fact that the forsaking was a frequent habit of some. If the forsaking was “quitting with no intention of coming back,” how could the writer say, “as the manner of some is?” It is like the man who said, “It’s easy to quit smoking. I’ve done it a hundred times!”

In Matthew 27:46, Jesus cried, “My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?” God forsook Christ only once. Did that make it not a true forsaking? Was Jesus mistaken about the fact of being forsaken? Did the Father forsake Christ “with no intention of coming back?” Though the Father abandoned the Son only one time for a brief time, it was still an abandonment, a forsaking. The frequency and duration had nothing to do with the fact of it. So, when one willfully neglects the assembling, though he does it once, he has still done it.

3. There are exceptions. “Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift” ,(Matt. 5:23, 24). Though the text deals with the law, the principle is the same under the New Covenant. Therefore, “Hebrews 10:25 is the rule because there are exceptions to it,” to use our brother’s line of reasoning. There are no exceptions to Mark 16:16. Is it not the rule?

4. In view of the review of his three points designed to establish this his fourth, we conclude that a Christian cannot miss a service in order to go hunting and fishing, etc. Other passages apply. “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you” (Matt. 6:33). “Set your affections on things above, not on things on the earth” (Col. 3:2). “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever” (1 Jn. 2:15-17).Questions Answered

1. In light of the remarks above, Hebrews 10:25 can apply to missing one service.

2. W. E. Vine’s Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words provides practical definitions of what constitutes forsaking, “To forsake, abandon, leave in straits, or helpless.” The verb form of the word “forsake” means “to desert” (Cf. Matt. 27:41; Acts 2:27; 2 Tim. 4:10, 16). The text itself affords some definition. Observe the contrast in the verse:

“Not Forsaking-But-Exhorting”

The exhortation was the thing saints received when they assembled, but when they forsook the act of assembling, they did not exhort nor receive exhortation in the assembly which was needed in view of the day approaching. There was the danger of “wavering” (v. 23) and of complete apostasy from their confidence (vv. 35-39), so, the saints were not to forsake the assembling of themselves together, as some were doing, lest they deprive themselves of the necessary exhortation.

3. See the answer in section three above under His Position. Hebrews 10:25 is a rule. There are exceptions which one determines by the Scriptures (Matt. 5:23, 24).

4. The questions in this section cannot be answered by anyone except the brother who opposes the position set forth in this article. The question is based on a “no” answer to query three immediately above, but the answer was “yes,” so this question is rendered void.

Truth Magazine XXI: 17, pp. 267-268
April 28, 1977

The Sin of Gossip

By Thomas Icard

Gossiping sins are listed in 2 Cor. 12:30: “. . . debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults.” These sins can cause one to lose his soul, just as lying, stealing, and fornication can. “Gossip” is defined by Webster as “an idle tattler or carrier of tales; mere tattle; groundless rumor” (p. 373, Webster’s Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1969 edition). Gossip is referred to in the Bible as whispering. It “occurs in an evil sense in Romans 1:29 . . . is used of secret slander in 2 Cor. 12:30” (W.E. Vine, Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 212).

Although the tongue is one of the body’s smallest members it has a great influence over the body. It is often the cause of our troubles. James talks about its power in James 3:3-12. We should be able to control such a small member of the body, yet this is one of the hardest things we find to do. The apostle Paul said of his body; “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection; lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway” (Cor. 9:27). Jesus tells us the body is the territory of sin. “And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell” (Matt. 5:29-30). The source of sin is not in the members of our bodies. Jesus uses this illustration to show the extent one should sacrifice to rid a moral evil of the mind,

Jesus told the Pharisees where the source of sin was; He said, “O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, that every idle word that man shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned” (Matt. 12:34-37). Everyone of us, from the time he is born, has formed his heart (mind) with a storehouse of thoughts-those he believes to be valuable, good or bad. From this inward man we form our convictions and make our judgments of every situation. Our tongues only convey to others our inward thoughts.

Gossip is evil and slanderous. Those who gossip sow discord and do much harm. “An ungodly man diggeth up evil, and in his lips is a burning fire. A forward man soweth strife; and a whisperer separateth chief friends” (Prov. 16:27-28). Gossipers usually put much work in their evil purposes. Their lies produce strife and contention between some of the most peaceful and loving friends. This is why Paul wanted to see the younger widows married so they would not have time to fall into such situations. He described gossipers as “. . . not only idle, but tattlers also and busy bodies, speaking things which they ought not” (1Tim. 5:13). He gives the secret of preventing gossip: overcome it with a busy life and mind proper things.

Those who are not Christians look upon us as first hand examples of Christ-like people. If they see that gossip and other sins are characteristic of our lives, then we are not “shining lights” to the world. “But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evil doer, or as a busy body in other men’s matters” (1Pet. 4:15). When we gossip, we are meddlers in other people’s business. We show others that we are covetous, unwise, and misguided. Paul said, “. . . let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints” (Eph. 5:3). Let us let our lips be “a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service” (Rom. 12:1).

Truth Magazine XXI: 17, pp. 265-266
April 28, 1977

Formalism in Worship

By Johnny Stringer

Some have decided that the worship in most congregations is not sufficiently spiritual, that it is stilted and formal. They seem convinced that the way to solve this problem is for the congregation to change whatever order is followed in the worship. Many of these brethren want to engage in the same scriptural actions, but they want to change the order in which these actions are done. Some, in fact, would even have us destroy whatever order is being followed and replace it with no orderly procedure whatever, thereby creating a disorderly assembly (1 Cor. 14:33, 40).

All must admit that, for too many brethren, worship is merely a formality which they go through-a routine obligation they feel they must fulfill to avoid hell. Their hearts are not involved, their worship is not in spirit (John 4:24) and they receive no spiritual benefit from it. This is sad. But the question is: Is this condition due to the fact that the congregation follows the same orderly procedure? Will changing the order or destroying the order solve the problem?

Certainly, there is no order prescribed by the scriptures which must be followed in performing the scriptural expressions of worship. It surely is wrong for brethren to reach the point that they believe the order they follow is the only way it can be done. There is absolutely nothing wrong with replacing one orderly procedure with another orderly procedure. Sometimes a change in order serves a useful purpose. But those who are crusading for change under the impression that a change in the order of procedure is going to make the worship more spiritually meaningful are laboring under a strong delusion. Their proposed solution betrays shallow and superficial thinking.

If the worship of certain brethren is mere formality, if it is not spiritually meaningful to them, it is not because of the order in which the acts of worship are performed. In those same assemblies which are so dull and formal and meaningless to some brethren, there are other brethren who are deeply involved and greatly blessed-and they are following the same order of procedure that the bored formalists are following! If the worship is but a meaningless formality for a person, that person himself is responsible; he must not try to justify himself by shifting the blame to the fact that the congregation follows a certain established order.

What matters is not what order is followed, but whether or not one’s heart is involved in the worship. A Christian’s heart can be involved regardless of the order. If a Christian meditates upon the spiritual thoughts expressed in the songs, the singing will be meaningful and edifying to him, no matter where they come in the order that is being followed. One can pray just as intensely and sincerely even if the praying has been done immediately after the third song for twenty years. The Christian cannot help but be stirred by meditating upon what the bread and fruit of the vine represent. All who listen intently will be helped by the preaching of God’s word. If a person wants to find the one who is responsible for the fact that the worship is but an unmeaningful formality to him, all he has to do is find a mirror, look in, and behold the culprit!

The solution to cold formalism in worship, brethren, lies not in changing the order of procedure, but in changing the hearts of brethren. The meaningfulness of worship depends upon the hearts of those involved. If they are spiritually minded and their hearts are involved in what they are doing, the worship will be for them a wonderful, beneficial experience; otherwise, it cannot be but a boring formality, unless it is artificially made interesting by gimmicks and constant changes for novelty.

Truth Magazine XXI:17, p. 265
April 28, 1977

Reflections on the Daily News

By Lewis Willis

Snake Handler Bitten; Dies Without Antidote

DELBARTON, W. VA. (AP)-The snake that bit Curbs Mounts during a church ceremony was a big one. It lest fang marks an inch apart. Mounts’ arm swelled to twice its normal size, but he sought no medical attention before he died three days later.

He was a member of a church which follows a Biblical quotation that says “they shall take up serpents . . .”

Mounts, 61, died at his Slick hock home Wednesday, Coroner Ernie Ritchie said. He was bitten twice on the fight hand Sunday by a water moccasin.

“The right arm was swollen twice the normal size from the hand to the shoulder and was discolored,” Ritchie said.

“Swelling had even entered into the chest area along with discoloration.”

The coroner said the fang marks were an inch apart, almost twice the distance of marks from an average bite.

Modern efforts to duplicate the miraculous feats of apostolic days are legion. It seems that men cannot or will not learn that the day of miracles has passed. The article above appeared in the Amarillo Daily News on April 21, 1976. The religious snake-handling cult of Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia has received much publicity. Much of it has been such as is in this little article. It has caused many people to turn from religion as a “form of superstition” with which intelligent people will have nothing to do. However, as there are quack doctors and dishonest lawyers, there are also false religionists. To dismiss religion because of such misguided actions by some is as foolhardy as dismissing doctors and lawyers because some are without integrity.

The biblical passage used to justify this snake handling practice is Mark 16:17-18. Here Jesus is issuing His final instructions to His Apostles. “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” But, does this passage teach an enduring practice of these miraculous acts? Many say, “Yes.” As proof, they cite the tongue speakers of today. Or, what about the Oral Roberts type who heals the sick? However, those who believe these things have been pressed, and rightfully so, to show evidence of the presence within themselves of these other miraculous acts. The more unlearned (which sounds better than “ignorant”) have taken up the challenge and started playing with poisonous snakes. Periodically, we read that some poor soul has died, as in this article. When I lived in Louisville, Kentucky, more little articles appeared because we were closer to the scene.

Interestingly, I cannot recall a single time when one of the preachers for these people was bitten. Only their disciples. Don’t ever call preachers “stupid!” If anyone knows the folly of such teaching, the preachers do! And, they are not about to get caught by a water moccasin with a one-inch fang span. Do you think they are crazy? Like a fox! But they seem to have no compulsions of conscience concerning their brethren.

These actions were “signs.” Such evidences were necessary in the dawn of Christianity to attract attention to the doctrine. They were to authenticate the message and the messengers. As in Christ’s personal ministry spiritual authority was indicated by miraculous works, so was it in the ministry of His Apostles and followers. But, our Lord’s words do not mean that they were to be in perpetuity, as a continually recurring evidence of the truth of Christianity. These things were to persuade the unbeliever (1 Cor. 14:22). God confirmed the word of the Apostles. A thing only needs confirmation once! In taking up serpents and drinking deadly things, their lives were preserved by the miraculous power of God, whenever the exertion of such power was needed. What was in itself injurious, was made serviceable to the interests of God’s Kingdom. However, the extension of this statement to believers generally, in every age of the church, is not warranted by anything in the text, and such introduces confusion of the sort of our little newspaper article. The promise of Christ was a promise to the Apostles and to the apostolic age. Fulfillment of the promise is all that is demanded by reasonable and responsible men of our age.

Was the promise fulfilled? Yes! Paul cast out a devil at Philippi (Acts 16:16-18). The Apostles spoke in other tongues on Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). Paul was bitten by a venomous serpent at Melita , without harm coming to him (Acts 28:4-6). The sick were healed (Acts 3:6-7). The only act not directly confirmed is the drinking of a “deadly thing.” McGarvey and Pendleton wrote: “The book of Acts gives examples of each one of these signs except the fourth, and though we have no record of a disciple escaping the effects of drinking poison, there is little doubt that in the many persecutions such cases did occur” (The Fourfold Gospel, p. 764). How many times must a promise be fulfilled before we acknowledge that the matter is concluded?

Yet, men like the snake handler affirm its continuing fulfillment. He who affirms that the signs to yet follow the believers should present some ocular demonstration of the fact before he asks the people to believe his assertion. Let us see them, and then we will believe. Dying from a snake bite does anything but confirm that such continues today. After all, a rank infidel might die from an untreated snake bite.

Just exactly when these powers were withdrawn, perhaps we cannot finally decide, i.e., we are unable to give the hour, date, place or person. But, as the purpose of their bestowal was temporary, it is evident that when that purpose was satisfied, and Christianity was launched upon the waters of the world, it was in accordance with divine wisdom that miracles should cease. The Apostle Paul affirmed as much (1 Cor. 13:8).

As for me, do not waste your time inviting me to a snake handling service. I would be like that fellow who took his wife to such a service. He was asked if he wanted to “try his faith” by taking up a big rattlesnake. He turned to his wife and asked, “Where is the back door?” She replied, “They don’t have one.” To which he replied, “I wonder where they would like to have one.” Nuff said!

Truth Magazine XXI: 17, pp. 264-265
April 28, 1977